Governor of Poker 3 is a massive fraud

[davetubb]

I'm 56, I lived a few hours from Las Vegas for many years and went 5-6 times a year plus I've gambled in Atlantic City, California Casinos, Washington State etc. There's no way what ever random number generator they use for this site is legit. Statistically its not even remotely close to any reality I've ever eperienced. I've even gambled in Europe, Monte Carlo etc, nope, this site is simply ridiculous beyonf belief.

[SpecialistZer0]

@8Gage 100% agree with you, especially the part about levelling, so obvious.

[Nemesis]

BOT GOP (all level same VIP) unbeatable the flop adapts to their hand, Maximum daily Gain, loss until you are at 0 whatever the playing time and the way of playing, Siphon principle in teams, blocking of winning / winning hands so that you lose on the calendar and force you to pay the missed day, players GOP Team on table if you suspect bots, you can be redirected to tables or only bots especially on big tables (4 bots and you who lose), bots often couple / family / child photo it should not have image rights on group photos

[Seekery Tom Fain]

Anytime I have played the game, I ran better then I usually do when I play for real money.

[Sparkie951]

Publicado originalmente por 8Gage:

I've been playing this game for awhile now, and it seems really fishy that once you accumulate a decent amount of money , all the sudden you start loosing on hands that you would normally win with. Now proven or unproven the facts cant be substantiated as too the randomness of the draw. Here's a thought. The draw is random, but the developers are putting ringers in with the general players who can manipulate the cards so as too keep the numbers down, thus regulating anyone from getting too big.
Now their whole argument or defense rests on the claim that it's free, so why should you care? It's all for entertainment right? Your paying too extend your entertainment. Ok we get that.
Only it's not free, someone is paying for it. So I ask you this, why should a player put money into a flawed system?
When you have love for the game , or even a mild appreciation of it you want too see an even playing field. If I have no trust that the game reflects real life situations; how can I measure or count my progress of said skills when the odds or playing is being artificially manipulated.
The accumulation of money being the only measure of progress. I've played some places I'm not a pro by any means. But never have I ever lost too so many bad beats in a row, how do you explain for this? It's like your trying too push a different version of reality off on us that just doesn't compute in the real world. If I give someone a ten and ask for change and only get nine back is that reality?
I think the problem is with expectations not being in line with one another. When you hear the game of poker being played you automatically assume a certain standard of rules everyone has to abide by. When you place a bet you know that the Ace is high and the 2 is low everyone understands this otherwise you would not be able too play competitively. If not then who cares , since it's free I'll just bet any old way right who cares?
But the thing of it is if your a competitive player you do care, and you know the odds , then you also know the fish is more likely too bet into you or otherwise throw away their money. As you progress you become more familiar with the game; your experience grows and you get better hopefully.
What you have done is pretty much taken that out of the equation, too the point that there can be no learning curve because of the fishy randomness. Your teaching bad play in the name of capitalism.
If you want any of us good players to actually start spending money on your casino Fix it!

That is exactly right... There is a Randomless Random play in the game!

[SHADY ™]

@Dennis This game should be removed from steam ! 100% Crap.
I love it that a developer respond with a dumb as_ quote trying to bully his way for the game that is a joke! It''s broken or rigged whatever you want to call it ! It crap!
You should be fired as a developer . Ahh but then again you might be the only one work on the game . You must be doing support as well , I put a support ticket in 2 weeks ago and still no responds! Sad you have to use someone else post to try to make your game look good!
No matter how you try to put a sunshine face on this game everyone knows it's crap. Rigged and broke!
THE END ..

[Sparkie951]

I agree with you.. you are dead on! There is only one way to win and I have found it... Look for my posts!

[itsjust_lyric_]

Publicado originalmente por Dennis:

Hey guys,

Good to hear we got experience poker players here. :)

At Governor of Poker, we value a fair game. Therefore, we don't manipulate any cards to favor one player above another or the house. We simply shuffle the deck and deal each player the cards. To shuffle the deck, we use the Fisher–Yates algorithm, with a Mersenne Twister as the random number generator. These are proven and tested methods to shuffle a deck as fairly as possible.

In poker, 1 deck is used, while in blackjack, 6 decks are used. We shuffle the deck(s) after each round.

Do keep in mind that players aren't playing for real money, like they would in a casino, the result is that more players will take the risk and stay in the game with bad cards. Due to this the bad beat ratio is higher then it would be in a casino. Some people are just having fun.

Yes you do favor higher player VIP+ or 3 or 4 starred VIP players more, I've folded many hands just to watch game play and played many hands and many hours invested in this game, done my research on odds, most common played cards and my fair share at the table to see how rigged it is, it doesn't take a genius to figure this game out. Also not everyone plays for free, you get people to buy chips when they lose everything cause of how rigged it is. My uncle is one of the top poker and blackjack dealers in Vegas at the Excalibur and said that is a joke it would never happen like that, in addition my friend is a very well educated developer as well and said it's the way you program it. So to finalize If you see so many people complain about the same issue why not fix it. O yeah wait I know cause then you wouldn't make money.

[itsjust_lyric_]

Yes you do favor higher player VIP+ or 3 or 4 starred VIP players more, I've folded many hands just to watch game play and played many hands and many hours invested in this game, done my research on odds, most common played cards and my fair share at the table to see how rigged it is, it doesn't take a genius to figure this game out. Also not everyone plays for free, you get people to buy chips when they lose everything even when majority of the hands are folded on people play smart . No you don't have to buy but you get what a average maybe 25, 000 free chips and that's really not enough to even try to sit at a table. My uncle is one of the top poker and blackjack dealers in Vegas at the Excalibur and said that is a joke it would never happen like that, in addition my friend is a very well educated developer as well and said it's the way you program it. So to finalize If you see so many people complain about the same issue why not fix it. O yeah wait I know cause then you wouldn't make money.

[ARingMaker]

the Gop3 developers doubled down on the massive fraud ages ago... with a rigged RNG and by placing thousands of Gop3 developer made pusher bots in the game...

read this... the "Some More Facts About the Gop3 Developer Made Pusher Bots" thread and mention this thread to other players. Learn how to spot them, you will see them everywhere, and then you will quickly learn how to play against them and win.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/436150/discussions/0/3414305314932094196/

the hundreds that i listed in that thread was only the tip of an iceberg... Gop3 would not remove them and then I found more Gop3 developer made pusher bot mass creation dates before my last post in that thread.

I found more Gop3 developer made pusher bot mass creation dates that were made at the same time the developers were lying about their exposed pusher bots in this forum... they stalled, then denied, lied, moved them around, changed some of the bots tells that I posted and then they made a lot more... and then continued to lie about it.

i also showed in that thread how the Gop3 developer made pusher bots were taking over the leader boards...

Gop3 gave me a few forum warnings for continuing to expose their BS... so i quit and uninstalled... as should everyone still playing this game that has morally and ethically bankrupt owners and developers.

learn about addiction... dopamine and serotonin. the developers know about these things. its the main focus of their business model and they use this knowledge against you... chase that carrot on a stick for yourself and your team.

also know and remember that if the app is free then you are their product. Gop3 selling chips and memberships is just a small time side hustle and not their actual big business.

[jujubemaster]

welcome to gop3, we all know its not rng certified

[Borfoid]

Publicado originalmente por Dennis:

Publicado originalmente por Hank E. Pranke:

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This genius said it all :) (And for the conspiracy thinkers: no i don't know the guy, it's just another player)

Come up with something where people just can't go all in every hand in poker.

Put them in a different league to the normal players.

You'd probably make more money.

I aint buying chips.

[Borfoid]

Publicado originalmente por Clown Shoes:

Is the RNG certificate bought, or is it just a lie?

And what part of the game is actually RNG certified. We all know it's not the cards but maybe it's the spin tokens or something, then they have something to fall back on if ever a legal matter is brought up.

Their RNG cert is bought, as with anything. That in and of itself isn't an issue.

What is and isn't covered by the cert is a different beast.

I'd like to think all their games are covered by that RNG cert and that RNG cert means all games are randomised.

Unless someone explicitly states that all games are covered by the RNG cert and every deal of every card in every game is covered by that acquired cert then it could be that - but it also couldn't be that.

Maybe the devs could just say "The RNG cert we have certifies that every game on the site, every card dealt on the site and/or every spin on the site is covered by that cert" you could lay that to rest.

But they wont... Because that isn't true.

There are some things on that site that the RNG cert, for *sure* doesn't apply to. I know what they are but I'm not going to say it.

[ruZboy]

I almost always played plus(I've never bought chips and I don't see the point in spending money on air)...Sometimes incredibly slow...I stopped playing because I don't have the feeling that I'm playing poker here, the feeling that nothing depends on me, the mathematics of poker doesn't work here == for me, this is a fact...Everything happens in card games, but the absurdity happens here...Just ask yourself the question "How often in normal poker can multiple players have strong combinations at the same time?" ... and this happens here regardless of the quantity of players at the table...

Regarding certificates, I have already written that I asked a question to the company that issues certificates == in fact, it does not guarantee anything, it just says that once a piece of code (RNG) was certified...It's even more like a "friendly test" that gives them the opportunity to hang a "fair game" banner and earn everyone, what happens next is known to the project developers...That's all the guarantees...
The main goal of the project is to make a profit == obviously...How and what to do next draw your own conclusions...
In my estimation, people who are looking for real poker make up a negligible percentage...And they don't make "weather" for the project...It has its own audience with its own interests (hats, teams, other nonsense)...

Asking questions here or making your point is a waste of time...The person answering the questions here most likely does not have knowledge concerning technical implementation...Judging by the pattern of responses and content...BLA-BLA-BLA we have the best RNG in the world...

P.s. Is it possible to trust the word of strangers when it comes to money?...For me, this question is rhetorical...

[Borfoid]

Publicado originalmente por Clown Shoes:

By bought, i meant in a way that's not legal

That's one thing, it is for sure legal.

Publicado originalmente por Clown Shoes:

or ethical.

That's another... I wouldn't like to speculate - but I've got opinions.

[Trollseat]

SImply, if a game is free, you are the productive. Im playing prominence poker 1500 hours and never see lot of quads. In gop 3 i see 10 + quads on 200 hours.
Make a logo with certified RNG is
basique. Like cigarettes is good for you.
I think dev of GOP 3 take LOT OF REAL MONEY. Good bussness and gratz for them.