Weapon for necromancer/summoner?

[Mr.Kie]

hello i am playing with a friend and i try a necromancer/summoner build. so my question is: what weapon should i use? a sword and a shield or wand and a shield? i know that necromancer skill make physical damage and that int increases the damage. so maybe someone can help me?

[Pyromus]

Generally, whatever gives you +summoning, and a shield. Likely a wand and shield, and likely the one Trader Ovis sells in early act 2. If you want to dual wield wands (or any weapon really) with a combo of +summoning and +int, that will also work, just make sure your gear will keep you alive without a shield.

If you're going lone wolf, you could pull off a 2h weapon or bow since warfare will also boost necro attacks, but honestly, summoning in lone wolf feels even worse after act 1 (it makes act 1 LW SUUUUUPER easy though) than non lone wolf summoning, so maybe respec after that point if you're doing lw.

[Mr.Kie]

yeah maybe i give a 2 handed swords man a try in act 2. thanks for the answering

[Chaoslink]

Yeah, what weapons you use on that kind of build really doesn’t matter as there isn’t a physical weapon with INT scaling. You shouldn’t really be using it anyway. If your teammate is an Aero/Hydro mage, you could use an air staff or wand to electrify stuff for the stun, otherwise just get a stat stick, probably with a shield.

As said though, if you’re going lone wolf, summoning is only worthwhile early game in the first act. Max it out immediately, don’t worry about the Necro stuff since Necro really doesn’t have offensive capabilities in the first act. Once you get access to the source spells in act two, you can drop summoning for full Necro/Warfare.

The thing to realize is that a summoner lone wolf has all these powerful benefits from the lone wolf talent, but fights by summoning a thing that doesn’t have all those benefits itself. It’s good for act one because you can max out summoning by like level 3 or so and it’ll be as powerful as most summons would be at level 10ish. However that scaling fades over the course of the act until your character would be outperforming it shortly into the next.

[Mr.Kie]

ah i understand. so i will change to a necro/warfare two hander in act two with my undead

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Mr.Kie:

ah i understand. so i will change to a necro/warfare two hander in act two with my undead

Not sure what build your ally is going, but if you want to use Necro offensively, you'll likely still want INT. Meaning the weapon you take still isn't all that important. You'll probably want to just pick up some magic as well and find ways to support the fight with that while you get access to the source spells Necro spams. Geo might be a good pick for the poison for healing undead, but basically any of them would work. However, if your teammate is going a physical build it might not be too beneficial. The reality is that Necro isn't really a "main" skill, its a support skill meant to aid other skills. However, the source "ultimate" spells that it has can allow it to be a main if spammed. You need Apotheosis and Skin Graft from Poly to make it work so you can spam Grasp of the Starved, Blood Rain, and Blood Storm repeatedly. These spells should basically delete everything in range if you're full INT/Warfare. But that's basically Necro in its entirety. To use Blood Rain, you need a point in Hydro, so you can use the healing spells of that and necro as a sort of extra offense when fighting undead since all that physical damage boost of Warfare will boost the damage undead take from that healing.

In the end, that's all there is to fighting with Necro as a main. Its crazy strong, but so is any skill when spamming source spells. Necro is popular because of that power, but honestly its almost more of a meme than anything. Kinda like Barrelmancy.

[Mr.Kie]

yeah i understand. well my build is totaly messed up but it is only act 1 :D