The "Boost-2" con debuff from Tir Cindeleus altar

[Azex]

is there a way to get rid of this. I have tried killing and ressing the character, tried the mirror to respect but my min CON is at 8. Reloading is not an option.

[Spawnling]

I guess you're talking about the Spider's Kiss and no, unless you install a mod to remove it you can't. But you got something out of it (+2 Str/Int, Gold or The Idol of Rebirth, which is an auto revive, which can be refilled during combat for 1 AP).
https://divinityoriginalsin2.wiki.fextralife.com/A+Web+of+Desire

[Azex]

Originally posted by Spawnling:

I guess you're talking about the Spider's Kiss and no, unless you install a mod to remove it you can't. But you got something out of it (+2 Str/Int, Gold or The Idol of Rebirth, which is an auto revive, which can be refilled during combat for 1 AP).
https://divinityoriginalsin2.wiki.fextralife.com/A+Web+of+Desire

Its not spider kiss. I should have been clear. its the -2 con from praying as a human at tir cindileus alter on nameless isle

[Chaoslink]

No. Its a permanent effect. Most, if not all, of the altars will take something from you that you cannot get back. That said, you don't actually need to interact with any of them.

[Azex]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

No. Its a permanent effect. Most, if not all, of the altars will take something from you that you cannot get back. That said, you don't actually need to interact with any of them.

only his alter and ralics give these game breaking debuffs. the rest did nothing. its not about need to i did. the lack of informing you of it when it happens is the ♥♥♥♥ up. if i had known when it happened obvious reload

[phenir]

-2 con is not game breaking lol.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by phenir:

-2 con is not game breaking lol.

This is also true. Con is the most worthless attribute. Getting nothing in return isn't great, but otherwise its best to trade CON for literally anything you can get. I literally end most runs with a character having just 3 CON, 7 less than the default.

[Spawnling]

You gain more HP by leveling up than you lose with -2 Con
HP for level
18: 1790 | 14% -> 250 [17 to 18 hp gain: 535]
19: 2240 | 14% -> 313 [18 to 19 hp gain: 450]
20: 2815 | 14% -> 394 [19 to 20 hp gain: 575]

In the end Con does not help, as armor protects you from everything and if your armor is gone you'll be frozen, stunned, kocked down and die, no matter how high your HP is.

@Chaoslink
Do you know what happens if you are at 0 Con? I mean it's -70% max hp, so theoretically you shouldn't die until you reach -5 Con (-105%)

[Azex]

thats how you guys played the game. loosing 2 cons means i had to drop 2 points back into it to equip my shield. that means i lost 2 points elsewhere. Im not looking for lectures on your perfect builds or the value of the stat. I just want to know if i can get rid of the debuff

[Spawnling]

Originally posted by Azex:

thats how you guys played the game. loosing 2 cons means i had to drop 2 points back into it to equip my shield. that means i lost 2 points elsewhere. Im not looking for lectures on your perfect builds or the value of the stat. I just want to know if i can get rid of the debuff

Btw. do you have the spider's kiss?

[Azex]

Originally posted by Spawnling:

Originally posted by Azex:

thats how you guys played the game. loosing 2 cons means i had to drop 2 points back into it to equip my shield. that means i lost 2 points elsewhere. Im not looking for lectures on your perfect builds or the value of the stat. I just want to know if i can get rid of the debuff

Btw. do you have the spider's kiss?

No its not spiders kiss. read the title. its from tir cindeleus altar in nameless isle

[Spawnling]

Originally posted by Azex:

Originally posted by Spawnling:

Btw. do you have the spider's kiss?

No its not spiders kiss. read the title. its from tir cindeleus altar in nameless isle

I understand that it's not from spider's kiss, but I was wondering if you have it.
If you had the spider's kiss and your min con is at 8, you'd have already found a solution.

If you still have the shapeshifter's mask you could try to turn into an elf and interact with the altar again. Maybe this overrides/removes the -2 con boost, as elves don't get the penalty?
Edit: In Act 1 the Thirsty Well treats every shape you transform into as a seperate character and rewards them. So maybe you can remove the boost by speaking to the altar as an elf...

[Yojo0o]

Originally posted by Azex:

thats how you guys played the game. loosing 2 cons means i had to drop 2 points back into it to equip my shield. that means i lost 2 points elsewhere. Im not looking for lectures on your perfect builds or the value of the stat. I just want to know if i can get rid of the debuff

Okay, and is that gamebreaking? The whole point of the altars is that you're making sacrifices or gaming the system in order to gain the information they hold. You lost two points of constitution, it's not the end of the world. Drop two points out of your Wits and/or Memory, ditch those 1-2 skills that you haven't used since act 1, you're gonna be okay.

[Azex]

Originally posted by Yojo0o:

Originally posted by Azex:

thats how you guys played the game. loosing 2 cons means i had to drop 2 points back into it to equip my shield. that means i lost 2 points elsewhere. Im not looking for lectures on your perfect builds or the value of the stat. I just want to know if i can get rid of the debuff

Okay, and is that gamebreaking? The whole point of the altars is that you're making sacrifices or gaming the system in order to gain the information they hold. You lost two points of constitution, it's not the end of the world. Drop two points out of your Wits and/or Memory, ditch those 1-2 skills that you haven't used since act 1, you're gonna be okay.

thanks for missing the point

[Chaoslink]

I mean, we’ve already answered the question. No, you cannot fix it. You’d have to reload.

The whole point of telling you that it isn’t a big deal is to work through it instead of trying to eliminate it. Unless this character is a mage, using a shield is probably not doing you any favors anyway. Regardless, there’s a means ahead to trade stats around like sacrificing 5 intelligence for 5 strength or things like that. You could probably dump a damage stat you don’t want for more CON to make up for it. Look for the table inside the academy once you’re in and talk to all the spirits around it. They have set trades, but you can usually combine them to eventually trade 5 of one attribute for 5 of another.