Birdie in the Basement

[TheDangerMouse]

Has anyone found a way to save poor Birdie in the Houndmaster's chambers deep inside Fort Joy? Our group hasn't managed to find away to avoid killing her when we try to free her.

[Arcanum Elite]

I dont think there is a way... its been corrupted by the magisters to hunt source no matter what.

[Wammes]

You can talk to Birdie and convince her that she can start over again. Pet pal + persuasion with int. in my case.

[Darxim]

In both my playthroughs she walked out of there a changed dog, still alive. I just chose the options I would choose in real life if faced with that situation.

[TheDangerMouse]

Originally posted by Wammes:

You can talk to Birdie and convince her that she can start over again. Pet pal + persuasion with int. in my case.

Originally posted by Darxim:

In both my playthroughs she walked out of there a changed dog, still alive. I just chose the options I would choose in real life if faced with that situation.

Thanks so much for the info! We just sort of left her alone because I'd only ever seen her aggro and turn all the other dogs against the player. We're to a point in the game where her mates in that room are all agressive no matter what so I'll save this for my next round.

[Bloody Carrotkey]

My Pet Pal character is primary Strength. With 24 Strength and 4 Persuasion I was not able to convince Birdie with Strength... I don't know if it is bugged or if it is just not possible to save the dog that way.... I then send my Wizard's staff which grants 3 Intelligence and tried this way - 15 Intelligence was apparently enough. So I guess it just bugged with Strength. Or perhaps there is a Rock-Paper-Scissor alike where Authority beats Intimidation and Reason beats Authority. But in the end: Yay I saved Birdie! :3

[Raze_Larian]

It depends on the situation if a particular persuasion method will work, and how high the respective attribute needs to be.

[Hunter83]

I did the int option and when i go back to the other dog buddy I end up having to tell him she is dead +(

[un4given71]

Buddy's friend is Emmie, one of the guard dogs in the room before you find Birdie in the cage.

[Hunter83]

odd since buddy gives you the key to the room maybe i am just missing somthen

[Carnasid]

Originally posted by Hunter83:

odd since buddy gives you the key to the room maybe i am just missing somthen

Subtext of the situation. Buddy watched Emmie get dragged off. By the time you arrive, Birdie is undergoing the "conditioning" Emmie recently went through.

Basically, you arrive too late to save Emmie, but just in time to save Birdie.

[rn_archl0rd]

Originally posted by un4given71:

Buddy's friend is Emmie, one of the guard dogs in the room before you find Birdie in the cage.

Buddy's key opens all the doors in that area, not just the one to the room with Birdie.

[genacline1]

Is it possible to liberate Emmie? I mean, she seems like she wants to go back, so I just avoided killing her for now. But in turn, I wasn't able to get Birdie out, I figured she'll be fine. Now I question myself...

[Coffeepot]

I gave the dogs the squeaky red ball to make them neutral, then came back later with a companion that had pet pal and used buddies keys on one of the locked doors then they became agressive again, still managed to get Birdie out with int check, don't know why the dogs attacked.

[rn_archl0rd]

Originally posted by Clunge plunger minge mangler:

I gave the dogs the squeaky red ball to make them neutral, then came back later with a companion that had pet pal and used buddies keys on one of the locked doors then they became agressive again, still managed to get Birdie out with int check, don't know why the dogs attacked.

They wanted a second red ball and were tired of fighting each other for the one. Seriously though, they also will run out and atack if you attack the silent monks near the doors after giving them the ball if you leave their door open.

[MTaur]

I stupidly had 0 Persuasion on my Pet Pal character. I'll probably have to start over when the full release is out in a few weeks anyway. But yeah, I won't mess that up again.

Anyway... after five reloads and trying all the options, Seduction was what worked for me. Otherwise, I would have had to wait for points and maybe come back later.