Dual Wielding 2 Handers.

[TheTzar]

Larian, you guys going to do this so i can pretend to be a barb from D2? Also why the hell not ya know? Insert a Talent gg.

Seriously i will purchase this game on the spot if i can do that.

[t8Son]

Are you for real, there's no dual wield 2H barb from D2.
There is no dual wield 2H in games. Do you not understand what 2H mean?

[Goblin]

Originally posted by SonT8:

Are you for real, there's no dual wield 2H barb from D2.
There is no dual wield 2H in games. Do you not understand what 2H mean?

What if they have four arms?

[MikeDeets]

Originally posted by SonT8:

Are you for real, there's no dual wield 2H barb from D2.
There is no dual wield 2H in games. Do you not understand what 2H mean?

There's only one game that comes to mind that has such a thing and thats WoW (Titan Grip)

[Gasarakii]

Originally posted by Goblin:

Originally posted by SonT8:

Are you for real, there's no dual wield 2H barb from D2.
There is no dual wield 2H in games. Do you not understand what 2H mean?

What if they have four arms?

Hahahahahaha

[SlicedAndDiced]

Originally posted by Ikki:

Originally posted by SonT8:

Are you for real, there's no dual wield 2H barb from D2.
There is no dual wield 2H in games. Do you not understand what 2H mean?

There's only one game that comes to mind that has such a thing and thats WoW (Titan Grip)

Dwarf Fortress Lets you dual Weild 2 handers if you dwarf is big and strong enough

[no0ne]

Originally posted by Ikki:

Originally posted by SonT8:

Are you for real, there's no dual wield 2H barb from D2.
There is no dual wield 2H in games. Do you not understand what 2H mean?

There's only one game that comes to mind that has such a thing and thats WoW (Titan Grip)

Also Diablo 2 (but only with swords) and Neverwinter nights 2.

[TheTzar]

Ya so that's 3 games, and i guess i might have been thinking of WoW. Barbarians could definitely dualk wield 2 Handed swords. So ya know...there. Also because it would be dope O.o. Not to mention why not have some badass endgame stuff that really sets builds apart? After all i felt that was REALLY lacking in the first game.

[(LOTH) scr4tch]

yea cuz who needs balance when you can just dual wield 2-handers?

[TheTzar]

<3 Qirin, that's what i'm talking about! @(LOTH)scr4tch Because who wants fun? Or options? Diversity in replayability?

[Jonathan]

Cause that'd be stupidly overpowered compared to anything and everything in the game?

Considered for a moment:
- Two handed = +crit mult & +damage
- Dual wield = +damage & +crit chance
- Scoundrel = +crit multiplier & +movement
- Guerilla = +50% damage on attack out of sneak
- Rage = Auto crit for two turns
- Flesh Sacrifice = +25% & 1AP
- Two handed weapons deal largest damage in game by long shot as is
- Haste = +1AP
- Warlord = +2 AP on kill
- Fighter skills increase damage based on STR
- The Pawn = 1AP free movement per turn
- One man army = increase stats for each less party member
- Fighter skills damage scale to weapon(s) damage and cost 2-3 for higher damaging ones
- Two handed weapon costs 2AP to use, while one handed uses 1AP
..... and so on for other buffs....

I think it's easy to see the killing spree that would follow....and no other fighter could ever match the output

Now you could weaken this by making two handed bonuses not effect DW two two handed weapons (like with the one handed skill) and keep the cost of swinging two handed weapons the same, thus making it cost 4AP......but that only slow down the killing as your skills will still cost the same and still make things go boom per hit whitch will then give you more AP to do it again...and given the number of ways to increase AP per turn you can use to maximize this.....and god forbid someone sneaks behind a squad of enemies while raged and so on (like I routinelt do with my rogue) and use whirlwind to kill multiple enemies at once cause of crits and damage and bonuses ........ yeah....just that couldn't be balanced properly....two handed would be obeselete for all out offense, and so would regular DW, and even sword and board would find it hard to compete with a biuld gauranteeing an enemy death or three at least once a turn.

[Cryder]

They're hardly two handed if you have one in each hand! Even at a -50% damage penalty they'd be very strong, not to mention stats being given as if you were wielding only one.

[Jonathan]

Originally posted by Qirin:

Originally posted by SonT8:

Are you for real, there's no dual wield 2H barb from D2.
There is no dual wield 2H in games. Do you not understand what 2H mean?

Barbarians can dual wield any swords, including two handers.

Also D&D 3.5 had the Monkey Grip feat. You could dual wield halberds in Neverwinter Nights 2 with it.

Also, in D&D, character progression get very crazy considering you end up fighting everything from Dragons to Avatars of Gods to World Eaters .... The power scaling in D&D makes things like running at the speed of light and hitting with the power of an atom bomb okay cause everyone in your party can do that in their own and your enemies are meant to face parties of enemies that can do that.

And least of all, when given access to all the books? A D&D 3.5 character at level 8 can be nearly as strong as a dragon all on his own....as in I theorycrafted a character that did upwards of a 120+ damage at level 5 and tank the same while also being able to have a rdiculous amount of manueverability.

Hell, I once made a summoner that only used badgers and critters but could out fight creatures with AR requires team of 4 a couple to a few leves above him.

D&D allows for some truly min-maxed stuff that's horribly broken unless your DM starts being creative with it

[Stabbey]

Originally posted by Goblin:

What if they have four arms?

The Sovani in The Last Remnant have 4 arms and can dual-wield two-handed weapons.

[TheTzar]

Well keep in mind too, I haven't actually played Div2 yet. So i meant more, like if they can add that in eventually and balance it, with like reduced chance to hit and such. Still like the ideas, hell ESPECIALLY if we become a God/Divine etc, your tellin me a God can't dual wield 2handers?

[HTF]

Originally posted by Goblin:

Originally posted by SonT8:

Are you for real, there's no dual wield 2H barb from D2.
There is no dual wield 2H in games. Do you not understand what 2H mean?

What if they have four arms?

In Umbra you can have mutator so you have 4 arms and a skill where you can use 2 hander weapons as 1 hander, meaning that you can wield 4 2hander weapons at the same time.