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[OldRoshi]

So ive read somewhere that Icons have a limit that are allowed in game. Thats fine n dandy, but does anyone know how many that actual number is, and how many are in the vanilla game so we can dictate how many from mods we can add in?

Ive downloaded like 12, and half dont show up, ive deleted all themods and only downloaded odins big 3, the hydro, aero, pyro overhauls, overlords necro, then a couple more. So maybe 7-8 tops, and still getting a few that are "?" icons. Any help?

[Wayzz]

Originally posted by Rinzler:

So ive read somewhere that Icons have a limit that are allowed in game. Thats fine n dandy, but does anyone know how many that actual number is, and how many are in the vanilla game so we can dictate how many from mods we can add in?

Ive downloaded like 12, and half dont show up, ive deleted all themods and only downloaded odins big 3, the hydro, aero, pyro overhauls, overlords necro, then a couple more. So maybe 7-8 tops, and still getting a few that are "?" icons. Any help?

this has something to do with the defentive edition. I needed to install some other mod from the creator to use the Priest class that would fix the icons. On vanilla i had like 15 class mods working fine together.

[Wayzz]

Originally posted by Rinzler:

So ive read somewhere that Icons have a limit that are allowed in game. Thats fine n dandy, but does anyone know how many that actual number is, and how many are in the vanilla game so we can dictate how many from mods we can add in?

Ive downloaded like 12, and half dont show up, ive deleted all themods and only downloaded odins big 3, the hydro, aero, pyro overhauls, overlords necro, then a couple more. So maybe 7-8 tops, and still getting a few that are "?" icons. Any help?

What im trying to say, check each mod to see if they have posted a other mod to fix it.

[lily127]

Had the same problem with Helaene's Priest mod (only ? icons), didn't know that it required the Shared Library mod too.

[LaughingLeader]

Question mark icons means you're missing the icon texture atlas, which is the big image file with all that mod's icons. Most likely you're missing that mod's core mod, which contains all their icons for all their mods.

This is a workaround modders have started doing recently to help mitigate the icon limit, which is 7 icon texture atlases in one UI. The UI limit is separate for the various parts of the UI, such as hotbars, the inventory, a trader's inventory, the two different windows inside the trade window (where your items go before you confirm buying or selling).

To give you an example, say you have some vanilla DOS2 skills on hotbar 1. That's 1 atlas towards the limit. Next, let's say you have a scroll and grenade on the same hotbar. That's 2 additional atlases now, for 3 total. Additionally, you have Spirit Vision on there, which adds another atlas (it's in a separate atlas called Icons_DOS2_Skills) and some arrows (another atlas for DOS1 items).

So we're up to 5 atlases now in one UI, and we haven't even started adding in mods! We're left with 2 mod icon atlases before we hit the limit, at which point, additional atlases will make icons start visually disappearing.

This is why modders with multiple mods have created core mods to host all their icons - Now instead of say, ~4 new atlases per mod, they can combine them all into one and help mitigate that limit.

Finally, you can help mitigate it as a player by organizing your hotbar a bit - Things like putting all your items on a separate hotbar, or perhaps putting a mod's icons on a separate hotbar if you start hitting the limit.

This limit has existed since DOS2 Classic by the way.[larian.com] We didn't know what actually caused it until the DE though.

[OldRoshi]

Let me get this straight.

Step 1) Go check my mod list, get the authors of all the mods that deal with classes/class overhauls.
Step 2) Go to their list, and see if they have a core mod like Odin does.
Step 3) Download said mods/fixs from said authors, and im guessing place before the classes ni my load order?

[Wayzz]

Originally posted by Rinzler:

Let me get this straight.

Step 1) Go check my mod list, get the authors of all the mods that deal with classes/class overhauls.
Step 2) Go to their list, and see if they have a core mod like Odin does.
Step 3) Download said mods/fixs from said authors, and im guessing place before the classes ni my load order?

yes exactly

[OldRoshi]

Originally posted by Wayzz:

Originally posted by Rinzler:

Let me get this straight.

Step 1) Go check my mod list, get the authors of all the mods that deal with classes/class overhauls.
Step 2) Go to their list, and see if they have a core mod like Odin does.
Step 3) Download said mods/fixs from said authors, and im guessing place before the classes ni my load order?

yes exactly

It worked :)

But next question, My load time is horrendiously long. The only "game changers" i have is Dark Fort Joy, More Enemies, the classes/overhauls, free pet pal, sir squirrel overhaul, rest-urect, and more max AP.

I dont have any "system" changes as attiribute or AI. So why is my load time like 15-20 minutes to get into game?

[Wayzz]

Originally posted by Rinzler:

Originally posted by Wayzz:

yes exactly

It worked :)

But next question, My load time is horrendiously long. The only "game changers" i have is Dark Fort Joy, More Enemies, the classes/overhauls, free pet pal, sir squirrel overhaul, rest-urect, and more max AP.

I dont have any "system" changes as attiribute or AI. So why is my load time like 15-20 minutes to get into game?

Are you playing coop? if solo it shouldnt be nearly that long. Only like 5 minutes at most with mods.

[OldRoshi]

Originally posted by Wayzz:

Originally posted by Rinzler:

It worked :)

But next question, My load time is horrendiously long. The only "game changers" i have is Dark Fort Joy, More Enemies, the classes/overhauls, free pet pal, sir squirrel overhaul, rest-urect, and more max AP.

I dont have any "system" changes as attiribute or AI. So why is my load time like 15-20 minutes to get into game?

Are you playing coop? if solo it shouldnt be nearly that long. Only like 5 minutes at most with mods.

Nope solo, tactical difficutly, startnig up a new game, takes like 5 minutes for character creation, then like 10-15 after that to get into the game (i do have the skip tutorial mod?)

[Wayzz]

Originally posted by Rinzler:

Originally posted by Wayzz:

Are you playing coop? if solo it shouldnt be nearly that long. Only like 5 minutes at most with mods.

Nope solo, tactical difficutly, startnig up a new game, takes like 5 minutes for character creation, then like 10-15 after that to get into the game (i do have the skip tutorial mod?)

Is it like this every single load or just once? if it once its normal, if its every time its strange. Ive had countless mods and this only happend when I was playing coop with a friend and he missed like one mod and it had to download it from the workshop when connecting to my game.

[OldRoshi]

Originally posted by Wayzz:

Originally posted by Rinzler:

Nope solo, tactical difficutly, startnig up a new game, takes like 5 minutes for character creation, then like 10-15 after that to get into the game (i do have the skip tutorial mod?)

Is it like this every single load or just once? if it once its normal, if its every time its strange. Ive had countless mods and this only happend when I was playing coop with a friend and he missed like one mod and it had to download it from the workshop when connecting to my game.

Yeah man, everytime i load up my game to the current one, doesnt matter if its fresh, or 20 minutes into the game, anytime i start it up, get to menu, and click contiune, 15 minute loads.

[Wayzz]

Originally posted by Rinzler:

Originally posted by Wayzz:

Is it like this every single load or just once? if it once its normal, if its every time its strange. Ive had countless mods and this only happend when I was playing coop with a friend and he missed like one mod and it had to download it from the workshop when connecting to my game.

Yeah man, everytime i load up my game to the current one, doesnt matter if its fresh, or 20 minutes into the game, anytime i start it up, get to menu, and click contiune, 15 minute loads.

Strange. My bet its just one mod thats casuing the issue and the only real way to find out which one is by disabling a few each time you load on a different save to see which takes the longest. Used to do this with Skyrim mods to see which one was causing my game to crash lmao

[OldRoshi]

Originally posted by Wayzz:

Originally posted by Rinzler:

Yeah man, everytime i load up my game to the current one, doesnt matter if its fresh, or 20 minutes into the game, anytime i start it up, get to menu, and click contiune, 15 minute loads.

Strange. My bet its just one mod thats casuing the issue and the only real way to find out which one is by disabling a few each time you load on a different save to see which takes the longest. Used to do this with Skyrim mods to see which one was causing my game to crash lmao

Oh man tell me about it, im about to just scrap steam workshop and just use NMM or something for this. I modded my skyrimSE to the max lol.

I guess your right. Any ideas to which one it would be if i were to give you a list?

[Wayzz]

Originally posted by Rinzler:

Originally posted by Wayzz:

Strange. My bet its just one mod thats casuing the issue and the only real way to find out which one is by disabling a few each time you load on a different save to see which takes the longest. Used to do this with Skyrim mods to see which one was causing my game to crash lmao

Oh man tell me about it, im about to just scrap steam workshop and just use NMM or something for this. I modded my skyrimSE to the max lol.

I guess your right. Any ideas to which one it would be if i were to give you a list?

My guess would just be the huge ones that drasticly change the game or something. Could also be ones that dont have many subs and are probably not done by people who really knows what theyre doing

[OldRoshi]

Originally posted by Wayzz:

Originally posted by Rinzler:

Oh man tell me about it, im about to just scrap steam workshop and just use NMM or something for this. I modded my skyrimSE to the max lol.

I guess your right. Any ideas to which one it would be if i were to give you a list?

My guess would just be the huge ones that drasticly change the game or something. Could also be ones that dont have many subs and are probably not done by people who really knows what theyre doing

I went into my documents and deleted the ones that i unsubbed from that wernt outa my game for some reason, ima try that out soon.