Why is this so retarded hard?

[Reaptor]

My party doesnt have ♥♥♥♥ for gear and every fight mother ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ got stacks of armor, crazy ass spells, and magic barriers n' ♥♥♥♥. Here I am with some sticks and stones. Wtf gives?

[Underlaw]

I wana add to this discussion...this game is amasing, awsome, a master piece!! I have two save profiles, one with tatician and another with honor mode..... Let me explain how you can RAMBO all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in fort joy.....first and most important, you NEED TELEPORT SKILL!
After get teleport skill, you simply can teleport one ♥♥♥♥♥♥ away from his companions, gang bang him with a closed door, or a lot of crates, chairs in the way. You can make miracles with teleport skill, you can get every chest, gang bang every npc, can teleport enemies, traps, chests.
But with my honor mode, im doing by smart way, stealing, pickpocket, lockpicking, chating, etc.

[Heatnixx]

You can beat the arena at level 2 if you have Ifan. You need teleport gloves.
The tactic is to get Ifan to high ground as soon as possible.

If the character with teleport gloves goes before him, teleport him to high ground. If Ifan goes first, move him to high ground.

From there you want to send a meatshield to the middle of the fray, doesn't matter if he dies, he's just there for distraction. Use Ifan's Fossil Strike + a fire arrow to make a small fire wall between him and their melee knight, which will discourage him from trying to focusing Ifan. If Ifan gets focused by the enemy, just reload the save because the entire strategy relies on him staying alive to deal damage.

Now if you still have teleport, what you wanna do is bring their battlemage (the first enemy to go, she usually runs to the middle in the first turn) to the middle of your team and basically kill her as fast as possible.
The enemy healer will climb down the ladder and come closer to try and help her, she's very weak by herself so Ifan + the meatshield can kill her fast.

[Brother PaciFist]

That sounds like fun. I used the teleport gloves to get a chest on a cliff once. But that did not help me to progress further into the game. Even on explorer mode, when i win the arena fight, my leader is sent into the dungeon. I can not get out of the cell. my team outside the dungeon can not get into it and i am stuck. So it seems not only the difficulty stops my progress.

[Myst]

Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:

Originally posted by ゴール・D・タﾙノス:

Is he playing on hard difficulty? Or is summoner Lone wolf so broken? Cuz currently I killed everything in town and no one stands a chance :D

Im playing on Tactician

>Plays on highest difficulty
>Complains game is too hard

[SteelaiRizel]

Completely confused how any of this can be considered super hard at the start. Me and my friend lost a few times due to simply level and gear issues but once we saw the amount of power difference a level makes we understood for the most part what encounters we go for.

People complain about the teleporting croc fight at the beach and i dont get how. It seemed pretty dam easy to us. "Oh the big croc has armor and magic armor but the little guys dont? Ok use light cc on the little guys and focus fire the big one.....done."

Migo? Knock him on his ass then nuke him. VERY easy fight , literally one of the easiest i have seen in the game. You just burst fire him down to CC and CC him, if you team isnt setup for such easy encounters i can't imagine how you will be later.

Most fights i have done so far are more than reasonable. We would comment they felt cheap for a bit til we realized what we could do when we synergized our capabilities to make those encounters work for us.

People are playing on Tactician just fine so i am going to assume that Normal aka Classic is tuned just fine.

This isn't a CRPG for people of the faint of heart. This is for people who are willing to think of every possible outcome they can and prep all that they can for their encounters.

Ya know? Like classic D&D? Do people forget that this is what this game is based on? Classic D&D campaigns fyi, aren't as nice as DOS2 is on giving you all the options you need to survive.

If people were just willing to talk/barter/ and interact with everyone they could, they wouldn't have such a hard time. You can find a lot of good gems that way and exp.

[Twerkinator]

Originally posted by Brother PaciFist:

That sounds like fun. I used the teleport gloves to get a chest on a cliff once. But that did not help me to progress further into the game. Even on explorer mode, when i win the arena fight, my leader is sent into the dungeon. I can not get out of the cell. my team outside the dungeon can not get into it and i am stuck. So it seems not only the difficulty stops my progress.

I haven't been put in the cell, but theoretically, you should be able to get another character to teleport them out

[Brother PaciFist]

It is not like i did not try. But when you play for the first time it is definetely hard and feels impossible. When your tank has 10 armor and migo comes with 60 physical and 30 magic armor. He killed my guys before i could even dent his shields. Fun for you that you can just walk blindfolded through all content. But not everybody is you, Migo kills my party even in explorer mode without effort. So something is perhaps a little off. But you are right with the synergies. But it can be a little off putting to be gang raped left and right on the starter island, dont you think.

[Sayhi2urmawm]

Use your environment to your advantage. Go around looking for candles and Oil barrels for your invetory. Grab some lightning arrows and water jugs. Set traps. Use your imagination.

[MushyWaffle]

Lvl 3 got my butt kicked. I went back when i was level 5 and embarassed them :) kiss the trophy.

This game has a lot .. I mean a lot of too tough areas that you will have to come back for. It's not linear and scaled, which is why I love it :) I makes me want revenge.. then dominance.

to the op, put it on explorer mode, it will drastically increase your pleasure of the game, which you can scale back up when you are fully geared. It is steep to start. there is no penalty for difficulty adjustments.

[CreamyCakes]

Try playing in the lower difficulty first to get the hang of the game lol

[Viper]

Originally posted by Brother PaciFist:

It is not like i did not try. But when you play for the first time it is definetely hard and feels impossible. When your tank has 10 armor and migo comes with 60 physical and 30 magic armor. He killed my guys before i could even dent his shields. Fun for you that you can just walk blindfolded through all content. But not everybody is you, Migo kills my party even in explorer mode without effort. So something is perhaps a little off. But you are right with the synergies. But it can be a little off putting to be gang raped left and right on the starter island, dont you think.

Originally posted by Brother PaciFist:

It is not like i did not try. But when you play for the first time it is definetely hard and feels impossible. When your tank has 10 armor and migo comes with 60 physical and 30 magic armor. He killed my guys before i could even dent his shields. Fun for you that you can just walk blindfolded through all content. But not everybody is you, Migo kills my party even in explorer mode without effort. So something is perhaps a little off. But you are right with the synergies. But it can be a little off putting to be gang raped left and right on the starter island, dont you think.

If you fought Migo when your tank had 10 armor your problem is your not doing all the content. I had a couple of nice pieces of armor ( leather armor ) by the time I got to Migo just by doing quests and picking and choosing how I proceeded by the perceived difficulty. Talk to everyone you meet. Explore all the area ..The caves..the beach and talk to everyone and do the quests you can before you fight any of the tougher battles.

[Citizen_Steve]

you guys are bad. classic impossible? LOL OL OL OL

I can do classic so easy with one character.

if you cant beat the arena... maybe wait til youre stronger? i know its really tough to figure that out.

doing honor mode right now, and im just now about to step into the arena, at level 4 and every character has phys and mage armor, and decent weaps.

use your brain in this game. read letters and books. dont just expect it to be diablo and u run in press mouse 10000000 tmes and everything dead.

[Citizen_Steve]

ahhh now i see the problem. OP is a cheater... and cheaters suck at games and want everything just given to them by cheats.

maybe try playing again once u can cheat

[Brother PaciFist]

That makes sense. The lack of direction makes it very easy to miss something and feel lost. I really thought i had explored the starter area thoroughly. In other games you run through content like this much faster. I have to rethink my playstyle and attitude towards it. More like an adventure puzzle game, then a normal RPG. And i thought myself a veteran gamer.

[SteelaiRizel]

Originally posted by Brother PaciFist:

It is not like i did not try. But when you play for the first time it is definetely hard and feels impossible. When your tank has 10 armor and migo comes with 60 physical and 30 magic armor. He killed my guys before i could even dent his shields. Fun for you that you can just walk blindfolded through all content. But not everybody is you, Migo kills my party even in explorer mode without effort. So something is perhaps a little off. But you are right with the synergies. But it can be a little off putting to be gang raped left and right on the starter island, dont you think.

Well yeah i can understand that frustration, i guess since i am used to playing games with perma death (Battle Brothers, Mordhiem, Darkest Dungeon just for starters) and crpgs , the idea to use every advantage just comes to mind immediately.

When we saw just how tanky Migo was, we figured we would have to focus fire with our heaviest hitting abilities and then when we saw he was leaking poison the solution was immediate. Blow him the hell up. Forget his physical armor, focus his magical armor by blowing up his poison with what options you have in your hands then , if you have some physical damage to drop on him at this point do it. Then you can knock him to the ground.

Oil/chill is super strong in fights like this. Once you utilize the options you have, he is just a sponge of health that doesn't get to move and dies horribly.

We get beaten down plenty for being arrogant and i have run into encounters on my own on my own file that have stomped me but i just sit there and analyze what went wrong.

There is nothing wrong at all with Migo's encounter, especially in explorer (i play classic). There is something wrong with your team comp if you get a party wipe that hard against him. Or your strategy, or other factors.

If you actually have a working party with decent synergy you dont even need decent gear against migo at all. Just the right skills and items.

I mean i could go on and on about how many different ways you could trivilize him without cheesing him but i think you get the point.