OP Spider’s Kiss

[AsianGirlLover]

For those of you who feel the -2 constitution tradeoff (permanent reduction of max HP) for +2 to another stat isn’t worth it, I may have good news.

I’ve yet to test this personally, but it seems you can use teleportation and mercenaries to achieve some amazing shenanigans. By switching out mercenaries, you can get over 20 idols of rebirth (effectively making death a nonissue). You can also take advantage of teleportation by picking an option with her, teleporting yourself out of the conversation, and rinsing and repeating until you’ve picked all options.

Doing these things will effectively allow you to get every possible reward, 20+ idols of rebirth, and 5k+ xp per character whom accepts the kiss - all at the now amazingly low cost of 2 constitution. (Not sure if you get 5k+ xp per mercenary as well - that would be truly op).

Anyway, will test this out when I have a chance. It was just something that was on my mind. If anyone can test/confirm it still works in the meantime, it would be much appreciated.

[MundM]

I can't imagine having fun using such exploits.

[Haridmon]

One thing is that the xp is for the character doing the quest alone. Otherwise yeah that works.

[Spawnling]

The teleport works and it helps those players that can't decide what to pick and then doubt themselves all the time if choice x would've been better.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Haridmon:

One thing is that the xp is for the character doing the quest alone. Otherwise yeah that works.

I’m not so sure about that. Experience is typically shared party wide, character specific experience does exist in act one somewhere as you can get a higher amount than your companions at one point, but it should even out once you dismiss them and recruit them again, which happens automatically at any act transition.

As for the OP question, if this is something you heard awhile back or was an older post, it may not be true anymore. At least not for the idols. There was a patch that made the idols limited such that you could only acquire two. She isn’t supposed to offer that option after you’ve taken it once.

As for doing the rest... are you saying each character can take a -2 con hit (always trade your con btw it’s worthless) and gain the other three +2 boosts? Because that’s a bit of a strong trade, though clearly exploity.

[AsianGirlLover]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Are you saying each character can take a -2 con hit (always trade your con btw it’s worthless) and gain the other three +2 boosts? Because that’s a bit of a strong trade, though clearly exploity.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. I believe there’re three stats you can boost, one option for gold (what a terrible trade), and one option for the idol.

Using the method described above, you should be able to boost strength, finesse, and intelligence, get some gold, AND get an idol, at only -2 con per character.

Edit: another possibility I just thought about: hypothetically, if you had comeback kid, you should be able to infinitely loop between coming back to life via the talent, the totem, the talent, another totem, ad infinitum.

[Senki]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

I’m not so sure about that. Experience is typically shared party wide, character specific experience does exist in act one somewhere as you can get a higher amount than your companions at one point, but it should even out once you dismiss them and recruit them again, which happens automatically at any act transition.

The exp for getting spider's kiss is actually per character not party wide. Not like it matters too much though you usually want it on every character and even if you don't it's a pretty low amount of exp.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Senki:

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

I’m not so sure about that. Experience is typically shared party wide, character specific experience does exist in act one somewhere as you can get a higher amount than your companions at one point, but it should even out once you dismiss them and recruit them again, which happens automatically at any act transition.

The exp for getting spider's kiss is actually per character not party wide. Not like it matters too much though you usually want it on every character and even if you don't it's a pretty low amount of exp.

Technically then you can get double by getting for your main, dismissing everyone and recruiting again, then having them do it. Your character would be behind though and it should balance out at the end of the act, but that’d technically be a possible way to boost your allies by whatever experience amount.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Are you saying each character can take a -2 con hit (always trade your con btw it’s worthless) and gain the other three +2 boosts? Because that’s a bit of a strong trade, though clearly exploity.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. I believe there’re three stats you can boost, one option for gold (what a terrible trade), and one option for the idol.

Using the method described above, you should be able to boost strength, finesse, and intelligence, get some gold, AND get an idol, at only -2 con per character.

Edit: another possibility I just thought about: hypothetically, if you had comeback kid, you should be able to infinitely loop between coming back to life via the talent, the totem, the talent, another totem, ad infinitum.

Just as a correction there, it’d be intelligence, finesse and wits. There is no strength boost.

As for the loop, as long as you have res scrolls, this is possible with just one so long as you get a turn in between to craft the scroll with the idol since you can craft in combat. The additional idols would only increase the number of possible deaths allowed, though you’d be limited on how many you can recharge based on your available AP.

I do still believe that there’s a limiter in place for the idols though. Two is supposed to be the current maximum amount, one for the trade and one pickpocketed off her. The option for it is supposed to go away after the first one.

[Senki]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Just as a correction there, it’d be intelligence, finesse and wits. There is no strength boost.

Actually you can get strength, int and wits. Finesse is the one that isn't available.

[Spawnling]

For clarification: Each character can get an Idol if you use the glitch.
(Edit: i didn't try to get more idols.)
Its +2 Strength and each trade shows up as a seperate Talent (except idol and gold they are the same, so it shows only once).
(Edit 2: To clarify +2 to Str, Int, Wits.)
You get a total of -2 Con.
I got 4 idols without stealing from her.
Btw. If you go to the crafting recipes you can recharge all 4 for 1 AP.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2374677759

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2374677490

[AsianGirlLover]

Originally posted by Spawnling:

For clarification: Each character can get an Idol if you use the glitch.
(Edit: i didn't try to get more idols.)
Its +2 Strength and each trade shows up as a seperate Talent (except idol and gold they are the same, so it shows only once).
You get a total of -2 Con.
I got 4 idols without stealing from her.
Btw. If you go to the crafting recipes you can recharge all 4 for 1 AP.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2374677759

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2374677490

POG champ right here! Thank you for checking.

I’m going to test myself later today, but can you confirm you get bonuses to every stat option with a total cost of only 2 con?

It sounds like you’re saying you got bonuses only to strength. Maybe I’m reading it wrong.

[Spawnling]

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

POG champ right here! Thank you for checking.

I’m going to test myself later today, but can you confirm you get bonuses to every stat option with a total cost of only 2 con?

It sounds like you’re saying you got bonuses only to strength. Maybe I’m reading it wrong.

Yes you get the bonuses for all stats and the -2 con only once.
(Above there was a discussion if one of the bonuses gives +2Str or +2Fin)
You still get 4 Talents (1 for each attribute bonus and one for gold and idol)
Minimum Stats at the mirror look like this:
12Str, 10Fin, 12Int, 8Con, 10Mem, 12Wits
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2374712892

[AsianGirlLover]

Originally posted by Spawnling:

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

POG champ right here! Thank you for checking.

I’m going to test myself later today, but can you confirm you get bonuses to every stat option with a total cost of only 2 con?

It sounds like you’re saying you got bonuses only to strength. Maybe I’m reading it wrong.

Yes you get the bonuses for all stats and the -2 con only once.
(Above there was a discussion if one of the bonuses gives +2Str or +2Fin)
You still get 4 Talents (1 for each attribute bonus and one for gold and idol)
Minimum Stats at the mirror look like this:
12Str, 10Fin, 12Int, 8Con, 10Mem, 12Wits
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2374712892

Excellent! You’re the best, Spawnling.

[AsianGirlLover]

Just posting to say I tested it on my end and it’s working perfectly. What’s even better is if you’ve made yourself that blood rose potion from Fort Joy - makes the loss to constitution even less painful.

Thanks again, Spawnling, for testing this out so quickly!