What is the void?

[Deathjester]

In the first game Leandra wanted to bring the void so that it would kill everyone, since the void is nothing, but it hardly seems to be "nothing"! The void has lots of life! There's the God King living there, his subjects, the Trife and not to mention a big ass Dragon! Doesn't sound like "nothingness" to me!

Did they change the lore? Or am i missing something here?

[Mrvecz]

Spoilers, not related to the ending but some considerable plot point.
In terms of the universe, void is a seperate plane of existence that is seperated by a giant wall of source.

This barrier was discovered by Fane who was one of the enternals and he shared his discovery with other lords, lords you know as the Seven Gods (Rhalic, Vrogir etc...)
Who used the source to become gods, casted the entire specie to the Void and the King (The being known as God King).

The barrier that seperated the real world and Void was OK till Red Prince spittballed an idea to Lucian to death fog bomb the Elves and Lucian liked the idea.

Elves, through their prayers were fueling Tir Cerdelius, who in turn was maintaining the barrier, when Divine Order genocided most of them with death fog, the barrier faltered and Void started to invade the world and it went downhill from there for everyone.

Source, became a liability to everyone... and thats where the game starts and the whole world gone down the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because Gods dont want to cooperate and fix it, they would have to give away more of their power and they are too selfish for that.

Divinity games, as i discovered seems to have a consistency crisis, world flunctuates between games.

And Divinity 1 and 2 as i was told, is unrelated and the events are distant around 1000 years from each other and i never played DOS 1 so i dont know what the game told about the void, its probably something completely different.

[Coconut :D]

Originally posted by Mrvecz:

Spoilers, not related to the ending but some considerable plot point.
In terms of the universe, void is a seperate plane of existence that is seperated by a giant wall of source.

This barrier was discovered by Fane who was one of the enternals and he shared his discovery with other lords, lords you know as the Seven Gods (Rhalic, Vrogir etc...)
Who used the source to become gods, casted the entire specie to the Void and the King (The being known as God King).

The barrier that seperated the real world and Void was OK till Red Prince spittballed an idea to Lucian to death fog bomb the Elves and Lucian liked the idea.

Elves, through their prayers were fueling Tir Cerdelius, who in turn was maintaining the barrier, when Divine Order genocided most of them with death fog, the barrier faltered and Void started to invade the world and it went downhill from there for everyone.

Source, became a liability to everyone... and thats where the game starts and the whole world gone down the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because Gods dont want to cooperate and fix it, they would have to give away more of their power and they are too selfish for that.

Divinity games, as i discovered seems to have a consistency crisis, world flunctuates between games.

And Divinity 1 and 2 as i was told, is unrelated and the events are distant around 1000 years from each other and i never played DOS 1 so i dont know what the game told about the void, its probably something completely different.

Also, they deathfog-bombed the Elves because of the Divine Order was in a war against the Black Ring at the Elven homeland, the Elves trusted Lucian and so they joined forces with the Divine Order to fight against the Black Ring.

The Black Ring was winning I believe, but then the use of Deathfog decimated their numbers, and the Elves were unfortunately got caught in the blast, which cause them to nearly go extinct.

Less Elves means less Source for TIr-Cendelius, which causes him to lose power and fail at keeping the Veil up.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Coconut :D:

Also, they deathfog-bombed the Elves because of the Divine Order was in a war against the Black Ring at the Elven homeland, the Elves trusted Lucian and so they joined forces with the Divine Order to fight against the Black Ring.

The Black Ring was winning I believe, but then the use of Deathfog decimated their numbers, and the Elves were unfortunately got caught in the blast, which cause them to nearly go extinct.

Less Elves means less Source for TIr-Cendelius, which causes him to lose power and fail at keeping the Veil up.

I’m not so sure that you would be correct using the word “unfortunately” when talking about the elves there. While raw evidence doesn’t exist to prove it, I’d very much argue that the elf genocide was very much intended. You have to remember that Lucian is working with Dallis to seal the veil and would want to take down The Seven. To do so, weakening one of them to compromise the veil and allow the voidwoken to contest their claim on Source makes sense by her goals. Therefore, killing the elves was likely intentionally done to weaken Tir Cindelious directly and the others over time, allowing her to make moves against the Source with the Aeteran. Just pointing that out is all.

[Chaoslink]

on a different note, I’ve considered a theory that it might actually have been Tarquin, on Dallis’ order, that caused the tear in the veil that properly let the voidwoken through. The biggest assumption that could break this theory lies in the nature of Braccus Rex himself though. Would he have taken the covenant from The God King willingly? My guess is no. Being a powerful source master as he was, I find it hard to imagine him accepting such a pact if another option was available. Was it just Tarquin to resurrected him, Braccus would have little reason to do The God King’s bidding. I get the feeling that Tarquin couldn’t actually raise Braccus and had to instead find someone who could. At the end of the game you learn about Tarquin’s interest in other realms. He very well might have found the weakened veil after the deathfog genocide of the elves and reached through it to discover The God King and have him raise Braccus. If that’s the case, Braccus’ only way back to a living body was to accept.

If true, it might explain the blackened hand Tarquin has when you first meet him. The void itself may have tainted it. If that’s all true, then Tarquin didn’t really raise Braccus, he raised The God King himself. Hardly something he’d admit to the player.

This might also explain Windego’s fall from favor with The God King as well since Braccus would make for a much better champion, especially seated beside the biggest threat (to his knowledge) in sealing the veil again, Dallis. All Braccus had to do was wait until the right moment to summon the most powerful minions of the voidwoken, Kemm, Isbeil, The Sallow Man and the Kraken and defeat all his enemies at once. This would be The God King’s plan to finalize the return of his people from the void.

Whether any of this is actually true, it’s a theory I came up with awhile back that fits a lot of things together in a different way. Something to think about anyhow.