Didnt get Spirit Vision

[CJ]

From reading online it is my understanding that I should have gotten spirit vision by completing the powerful awakening quest. However I am at the point where the only option i have for the quest chain is to return to Malady on the ship and set sail for nameless isle. Did i somehow miss this ability and if so is there anyway of going back to get it? From what I have read it should be in inate spell but i have checked all my characters and its not there. I cant complete large portions of quests without spirit vision. This is very frustrating.

[desrtfox071]

Are you running any mods? Even Larian mods?

[CJ]

nope no mods at all. just playing the base definitive edition game

[desrtfox071]

Some info here may help:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DivinityOriginalSin/comments/7eaqfr/learned_spirit_vision_but_the_skill_is_nowhere_to/

I've run through the main quest 5 times or so, and never had such an issue. Not sure what could be causing it if you have no mods.

[Razorblade]

Did you ever do the ritual in Meistr Siva's basement?

Regardless, shouldn't be a big deal. You can always get Spirit Vision and Source Vampirism on the Nameless Isle if you miss it in Driftwood. You can get an achievement in Act 4 for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the Act 2 questline, so the game already assumes you may end up leaving Driftwood without like 99% of the stuff you came to Driftwood for. XP isn't really an issue either. There's plenty of XP in the game to compensate for missing a few quests in Driftwood.

[Yojo0o]

I don't even know how you begin that quest without Spirit Vision. You get it from the very first ritual you perform for Meistr Siva, you can't actually complete the ritual without using it, and it's integral to many of the quests throughout act 2.

[Raul Pateides]

How did you leave the hall of echos after the first ritual at meistr sivas cellar? Iirc, you can't leave the instance without casting spiritvision?

[surreptitious]

You don't have to do it....

actually ... isnt there a spirit vision requirement to pull the levers to get into the crypt .. to the the sword hilt

[Raul Pateides]

Originally posted by surreptitious:

You don't have to do it....

actually ... isnt there a spirit vision requirement to pull the levers to get into the crypt .. to the the sword hilt

Yes, but since thats an ignorable sidequest, I guess he just didn't do it.

[CJ]

Hey, thanks for all of thr comments, I honestly don't know how I missed it since this is my first play through. It was mentioned I can get it later in nameless isle, how do I do that? It just sucks because I am missing a bunch of quests I cannot complete now. Just seems like bad game design to me if you are able to miss something that is so integral to completing so many quests lately on. I was searching for a mod to use to give me it, but couldn't find anything other than ones for making it permanent. I haven't played with any mods up until this point.

[Pyromus]

Originally posted by CJ:

Hey, thanks for all of thr comments, I honestly don't know how I missed it since this is my first play through. It was mentioned I can get it later in nameless isle, how do I do that? It just sucks because I am missing a bunch of quests I cannot complete now. Just seems like bad game design to me if you are able to miss something that is so integral to completing so many quests lately on. I was searching for a mod to use to give me it, but couldn't find anything other than ones for making it permanent. I haven't played with any mods up until this point.

There will be a destroyed academy on the nameless isle that you go inside of. There are some slabs with text on them and interacting with them teaches your character spirit vision. If you missed it in act 2, I would have to guess you also missed source vampirism, which also on one of the slabs in that room, right next to the spirit vision one.

[Yojo0o]

Originally posted by CJ:

Hey, thanks for all of thr comments, I honestly don't know how I missed it since this is my first play through. It was mentioned I can get it later in nameless isle, how do I do that? It just sucks because I am missing a bunch of quests I cannot complete now. Just seems like bad game design to me if you are able to miss something that is so integral to completing so many quests lately on. I was searching for a mod to use to give me it, but couldn't find anything other than ones for making it permanent. I haven't played with any mods up until this point.

It's an essential quest that everybody must do. None of us have any ideas of how its even possible that you missed it, that's not bad game design.

[CJ]

Thanks, and yes I also don't have source vampirism either.

And it is bad game design if you can miss quests that are essential to completing large portions of the game. You basically have to figure everything out in this game, there is no hand holding, which I get, but they should have made it that these "essentail" skills cannot be skipped. And it is possible because I don't have them and I am basically done everything I can do without it in act 2.

[desrtfox071]

Originally posted by CJ:

Thanks, and yes I also don't have source vampirism either.

And it is bad game design if you can miss quests that are essential to completing large portions of the game. You basically have to figure everything out in this game, there is no hand holding, which I get, but they should have made it that these "essentail" skills cannot be skipped. And it is possible because I don't have them and I am basically done everything I can do without it in act 2.

Except no one but you is even sure that:
1) You actually missed the skill
2) You didn't do something weird like run mods or edited a savegame that may have influenced your game, leading to alleged miss.

I have never seen what you describe, so personally, I'm very hesitant to call it "bad design".

Of all of the forums, and even a google search does turn up some references to missing the spirit vision skill, but those are so few compared to the millions of runs - literally millions of them, that it's pretty unclear how this might have even occurred (assuming it really did).


So what you've experienced is exceptionally rare and there are likely pertinent details about how this may have happened missing in this forum thread. Those details are likely not related to game design at all.


Edit: I also notice that you have completely ignored the questions about "how did you exit act 2 without getting it?". This is pertinent info. See this video, timestamp around 19:15:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Ycb4NJkcM

So did you skip the entire Meistr quest or what?

So maybe lay off the "bad design" accusations until you actually know what happened.

[CJ]

So what your saying is I came onto the form asking for help but lied about how I missed the skill and if I was running mods etc. What purpose would that serve exactly? I came on here asking for help because I wanted to continue playing the game and I was stuck. I do appreciate all of the help people have offered, and I understand your perspective that this is rare, but I didn't know this was rare or wasn't as its my first play through, and i was just trying to figure out how to get the skill.

Anyways I know that I wasn't using mods or any other modifications as I have been getting achievements playing which you don't get with mods, feel free to check my profile. I still stand by my statement that it's bad game design that this can happen. And quite honestly I was about to stop playing because of it.

[CJ]

Also I wasn't ignoring any questions I am just at work and can't access my home computer to look into what you are asking.