how do you save Magister Siwan ? (trying to get the hero tag)

[1stReaper]

ok... so according to the wiki it says helping Magister Siwan during the sinking ship prologue nets you the hero tag... but i cant figure out how to save her =/...

[Chaoslink]

I wouldn't worry about it. You can get the hero tag elsewhere quite easily.

[Danson]

Originally posted by 1stReaper.:

ok... so according to the wiki it says helping Magister Siwan during the sinking ship prologue nets you the hero tag... but i cant figure out how to save her =/...

You don't save her, you just need to try to help. Picking the right dialogue options when she's down is all it takes. But yeah, you'll get all kinds of tags based on lots of different conversation choices.

[Countrymusics]

ALL the magisters need to die.

I am just a little past act 1, but their atrocities know no bounds. None of them deserve saving.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Countrymusics:

ALL the magisters need to die.

And yet... I'd argue that is far from the opinion one should have. Once you learn more about them and how things work, things get muddied. The devs absolutely love making everything a moral grey area where being the good guy is impossible and things that might seem evil might actually be the better options. Nothing is as it seems in the game. The devs (or the NPCs written by the devs) actively lie and deceive the player regularly.

[Countrymusics]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Originally posted by Countrymusics:

ALL the magisters need to die.

And yet... I'd argue that is far from the opinion one should have. Once you learn more about them and how things work, things get muddied. The devs absolutely love making everything a moral grey area where being the good guy is impossible and things that might seem evil might actually be the better options. Nothing is as it seems in the game. The devs (or the NPCs written by the devs) actively lie and deceive the player regularly.

thats great ;)

if they deceive or misdirect me.. that gives follow up stuff more impact. Looking forward to it.

With my past knowledge and after seeing their dungeons and their "judge" I went back and killed every last one I could find at the time.

[1stReaper]

Originally posted by Danson:

Originally posted by 1stReaper.:

ok... so according to the wiki it says helping Magister Siwan during the sinking ship prologue nets you the hero tag... but i cant figure out how to save her =/...

You don't save her, you just need to try to help. Picking the right dialogue options when she's down is all it takes. But yeah, you'll get all kinds of tags based on lots of different conversation choices.

it had no options just (end)

[Crimsomrider]

Magister Siwan cannot be rescued, however trying to help her while she is bleeding out will award you with 1 point towards the Hero tag.

Initiate a dialogue with her and use her red cloth to apply pressure to her wound while she is bleeding out. Keep holding the pressure until the Kraken bursts through the ship.

You only need 3 points to get the Hero tag, so you can do these three actions to get it super quick:

• Help Magister Siwan by applying pressure while she is bleeding out
  
• Help Elodi with Griff's thugs
  
• Help Magister Yarrow and give her the ring

[1stReaper]

i literally had no options for her.
i'd get knocked down by the witch, do all the talking to the other characters,
go back to the room i started in, talk to her knocked down character,

and it would just tell me shes got a pretty bad open wound,
and under it the options would just be
1.(end)

and would repeat the same narrative dialogue
Narrator - * The magister lies on the floor, unconscious and bleeding from a dire-looking wound. *
1.(end)
<didn't have any red cloth in my inventory, do you need to pick it up ?>


<edit>
not sure if it matters?, but i'm currently playing the definitive edition

<edit>
lol...
shes KO'ed when i talk to her with my weapons holstered.. but when i have them drawn she tells me to put them away,,, lol (facepalms), the goes right back to being KO'ed

[Crimsomrider]

Ah I see. You're trying to talk to her too early.

• Go to the deck of the ship and fight the two Voidvoken
  
• Then go to the small boat and talk to the dwarf and the kid
  
• During the dialogue you have a choice to either leave or rescue your unconscious companions
  
• Go below deck and fight the Voidwoken
  
• After the fight go to Magister Siwan and you will be able to try to save her

[1stReaper]

ah, got it.

managed to help her now and get throw overboard in the process xD

Cheers