Fane's Face of The Shapeshifter.

[General Malaise]

First time using Fane, and I've been wearing this thing. Starting to think I'm better off without it. and just wear a Cowl for armour and buffs.

Is that what other do? I tried him as an Elf, for Flesh Sacrifice, but that's not so good on a Mage - it spoils your poison surface.

Are there good reasons to use it? It might be nice for Encourage, if I had no other human, but I do.

[Chaoslink]

Eh, I've only ever used it (its usable on anyone btw, not just Fane) for becoming an elf in the event I didn't have one. That being for the body part eating thing. Otherwise, I kinda forget it even exists. There's a few other exploity ways of using it like being able to spam that quest where you give the guys in the well gold since you can do it once per each character AND each transformation. Since you get an epic item each time, its a great way of rolling a bunch of epics to deck yourself out in early on.

[General Malaise]

Thanks. Don't know why I've been wearing it then.

I didn't know you could do that Well over and over. Shame I'm past it on this go.

Some Magic gear is hard to come by. Particularly footwear. I've still got stuff I had in Fort Joy.

[Chaoslink]

I think the well only gives rings or belts. Maybe amulets. But since you can get so many for a relatively cheap cost, it is a good way of rolling for some good ones.

[General Malaise]

Is there any point using the faceripper too? I used it on Flenser, just because - but I've not used it since.

[Chaoslink]

You can make shapeshifting masks from them. I dunno the details, another thing I never bothered with but as far as I know they're only for the race of the face used but it doesn't take the helmet slot. I think. Either way, I've never used them because I kinda knew what race I was going to play when I picked it y'know?

[General Malaise]

OK, cool.

I thought they were all to do with Fane.

I made a Human one, but it does take up helmet slot. I'll stop using them I think.

[utilityguy]

In relations to min/maxing for optimal play:
The Mask is only useful in situations where you need a lizard/dwarf/Elf when your party does not have one for things like Eating bodyparts, special dialogue options, ratial bonuses(+crit chance only available for humans|Dwarfs get +1 Sneak|Lizards get fire resistance & Persuasion), etc.

So the answer is no.

[bli-nk]

The main difference between the default Mask the game gives you twice from the Flenser and in Act 2 if you search Flenser's room at the Inn is that the crafted Mask allows you to wear a headpiece and not scare people. Otherwise, if your Fane does not interact with any merchants or talk to anyone, no need to bother with the basic Mask other than a couple specific quests.

The full crafted mask requires all the races individual masks + source orbs to create the full mask which can be used for any race. I made the full mask for Fane so that he could look human and wear a helmet mostly because he was my only scholar and there are a couple quests the character with scholar tag has to talk to people... before i did that people were fleeing in terror and I was unable to complete the quest the way I wanted.

If you are diligent with asking Han to bring Source Orbs you will have plenty, I think I ended my first playthru with +20 extra source orbs and that was after accidently using a few clicking on the wrong item in the hotbar during battles.

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by utilityguy:

In relations to min/maxing for optimal play:
The Mask is only useful in situations where you need a lizard/dwarf/Elf when your party does not have one for things like Eating bodyparts, special dialogue options, ratial bonuses(+crit chance only available for humans|Dwarfs get +1 Sneak|Lizards get fire resistance & Persuasion), etc.

So the answer is no.

Thanks.

I'd always thought it was a Fane thing, since he's the one who wants a Face Ripper.

I'll be glad to stop wearing it - just as soon as I can find a decent Cowl for him.

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by bli-nk:

The main difference between the default Mask the game gives you twice from the Flenser and in Act 2 if you search Flenser's room at the Inn is that the crafted Mask allows you to wear a headpiece and not scare people. Otherwise, if your Fane does not interact with any merchants or talk to anyone, no need to bother with the basic Mask other than a couple specific quests.

The full crafted mask requires all the races individual masks + source orbs to create the full mask which can be used for any race. I made the full mask for Fane so that he could look human and wear a helmet mostly because he was my only scholar and there are a couple quests the character with scholar tag has to talk to people... before i did that people were fleeing in terror and I was unable to complete the quest the way I wanted.

If you are diligent with asking Han to bring Source Orbs you will have plenty, I think I ended my first playthru with +20 extra source orbs and that was after accidently using a few clicking on the wrong item in the hotbar during battles.

But you can't wear the mask and a helmet can you?

I crafted just a human face(seeing as that's the only face I've ripped). There no place to put a helmet on though.

[bli-nk]

Originally posted by Leland Stottlemeyer:

I crafted just a human face(seeing as that's the only face I've ripped). There no place to put a helmet on though.

If you Craft the full Mask of the Shapeshifter which is the human + lizard + elf + dwarf mask you can shapeshift to your desired form and then put a helmet on and remain shifted. Unless Fane is your main, the persuasion character, or your lone scholar there is not much reason to do it other than for completionism as completing that mask is part of Fane's personal quest.

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by bli-nk:

Originally posted by Leland Stottlemeyer:

I crafted just a human face(seeing as that's the only face I've ripped). There no place to put a helmet on though.

If you Craft the full Mask of the Shapeshifter which is the human + lizard + elf + dwarf mask you can shapeshift to your desired form and then put a helmet on and remain shifted. Unless Fane is your main, the persuasion character, or your lone scholar there is not much reason to do it other than for completionism as completing that mask is part of Fane's personal quest.

Oh right. I will complete it then. Must have killed all those races around Driftwood by now.

[bli-nk]

Originally posted by Leland Stottlemeyer:

Oh right. I will complete it then. Must have killed all those races around Driftwood by now.

Just remember to shift again after you die if you are using Fane to talk to people... first time Fane was resurrected in a long time after I had completed the mask the first merchant we walked up to ran way shouting about the dead having risen. I was seriously looking around to see what event I had missed the must be about to fire off... then realized Fane had returned to his undead form after the last battle. ;-p

[General Malaise]

It does say 'Fanes Mask of the Shapeshifter' so not surprising I was confused.

So a crafted one is different to the one I have, and allows wearing a helmet?

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by bli-nk:

Originally posted by Leland Stottlemeyer:

Oh right. I will complete it then. Must have killed all those races around Driftwood by now.

Just remember to shift again after you die if you are using Fane to talk to people... first time Fane was resurrected in a long time after I had completed the mask the first merchant we walked up to ran way shouting about the dead having risen. I was seriously looking around to see what event I had missed the must be about to fire off... then realized Fane had returned to his undead form after the last battle. ;-p

Lol. I just went up to Bree and she ran off. I'd not put it back on Fane.

Another strange thing, was that I had to raise his Constitution to use a shield - but the shield had +3 Constitution on it, so it was self sustaining. However, I kept finding it had been removed. Not sure it was fast travel or what that removed it.