Is the only way to beat Dallis in Fort Joy use Deathfog or Lone Wolf?

[warichan]

I saw a guide where to get maximized EXP, I need to beat Dallis in Fort Joy. I saw this video where we can either give Alexander Deathfog from the ship, or using explosives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ8pLgFDO6k

I tried to use the explosives, but the damage isn't really much like the video. I already set 3 Ooze and 3 Oil Barrel, set an archer on Enrage and Deathwish, and shot Fire Arrow. I only get the half of Alexander Magic Armor. Also, I'm on Classic Mode with level 4.

Is it because my level too low I only produce small damage? What is the best setup to reach this without using Deathfog or doing Lone Wolf?

[Adeptus]

Originally posted by warichan:

I saw a guide where to get maximized EXP, I need to beat Dallis in Fort Joy. I saw this video where we can either give Alexander Deathfog from the ship, or using explosives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ8pLgFDO6k

I tried to use the explosives, but the damage isn't really much like the video. I already set 3 Ooze and 3 Oil Barrel, set an archer on Enrage and Deathwish, and shot Fire Arrow. I only get the half of Alexander Magic Armor. Also, I'm on Classic Mode with level 4.

Is it because my level too low I only produce small damage? What is the best setup to reach this without using Deathfog or doing Lone Wolf?

I think you can't beat them without using deathfog sorry. Your Damage and Level is too low to beat them the "fair" way.

[LArc7thHeaven]

I beat them once with full party of lvl 6. you need to have to 2 character with teleportation for safety measure. Get to high ground preferably near the quest giver magister, trigger the fight with ranged. and start killing the magister around.
The hard hitter is dallis and alexander and this where teleportation come for reliever. keep dealing damage to alexander or dallis with ranged. when they are get too close use teleport to send them down so they gonna waste turns just to return to your position and use that to keep dealing damage. the glove is a godsend and craft scrolls and use inventory swap to quickly use teleport

[Mrvecz]

If you dont have deathfog then you could smash her with a indestructible chest you move around with telekinesis skill. You can find one when you are about to climb to the secret location where Fane is located, there is a rainbow and a golden chest out of your reach. Use teleportation gloves to pull it to you.

Due to how game calculates impact damage, you can have a chest with all junk, crates and other heavy stuff you could find, having a weight of a truck(s) one shotting pretty much anything. Its cheese but more "legal" one when compared to deathfog. Since if enemy has retribution you can easily one shot yourself.

Right now, i have a golden chest with 4 tones of weight, so thats 4000 physical damage per swing of this chest near the enemy. I already beat the game so at this point i am only playing around with builds and i have the chest around for the annoying boss fights.

[warichan]

thanks for the reply, I already beat it at level 4 lol. I forgot I need to close the path to prevent enemies going. IMO the hardest to handle is the Magisters and Alexander. The Magisters somehow don't have much blind spot where I can't get hit at all. Alexander has this lightning spell (I forgot what) that hurts so much, thankfully not 1 hit kill. I also create 4 slots for the fight, just in case I did something wrong, and the pets backstab someone.

Originally posted by Mrvecz:

If you dont have deathfog then you could smash her with a indestructible chest you move around with telekinesis skill. You can find one when you are about to climb to the secret location where Fane is located, there is a rainbow and a golden chest out of your reach. Use teleportation gloves to pull it to you.

Due to how game calculates impact damage, you can have a chest with all junk, crates and other heavy stuff you could find, having a weight of a truck(s) one shotting pretty much anything. Its cheese but more "legal" one when compared to deathfog. Since if enemy has retribution you can easily one shot yourself.

Right now, i have a golden chest with 4 tones of weight, so thats 4000 physical damage per swing of this chest near the enemy. I already beat the game so at this point i am only playing around with builds and i have the chest around for the annoying boss fights.

I never know this is a thing. I'll try on the next playthrough.

[Pyromus]

Originally posted by sierra117:

I think you can't beat them without using deathfog sorry. Your Damage and Level is too low to beat them the "fair" way.

This mindset makes me sad. You can beat them right when you arrive if you use barrelmancy, but that's not necessarily "fair" either. I'd say 4 is the earliest you "should" try it, since you get some new skillbooks available. But I usually do it at 6 once the rest of the fort has been cleared. You only need to focus down Alexandar or Dallis to half health, then both of them leave the combat. Gheists are high damage but easy to kill, and the remaining magisters are little more than fodder.

[ZexxCrine]

All you have to do is pick up all the poison and oil barrels you come across. Put them in a chest. Put the chest next to Alexander, blow up the chest so that the barrels come out. Start the fight from high up, and fight as normal until all are dead.

[Chaoslink]

Easiest way is just blocking the paths to the wall and teleporting one of them into a ring of chairs then blasting them from range. There’s far more options than deathfog or lone wolf.

[Palumtra]

No, 4 man team can do it too, you can reach level 6 without leaving Fort Joy (which causes Dallis and her company to leave).
The easiest method is to wait them at gate near the dungeon enterance as they walk back there once they finished with Atusa. Here you will have high ground but keep in mind the the Hammer's Pets are rogues and have Backlash, Dallis has Blitz attack, so either cc (stun, blindness etc) or create smokes so they cant jump up to you.
You can complete this several ways:
Burst down either Alexander or Dallis, which will cause her to teleport herself and Alexander away (the pets will stay), at this point the achievement is unlocked, you can save before the fight and reload it now, or if you want Dallis' Hammer you have to kill the 2 rogues.

[Schrader]

teleport her onto the corpses where Vredeman destroyed all the seekers and do mass corpse explosion, literally the easiest fight in the game

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by God Himself:

teleport her onto the corpses where Vredeman destroyed all the seekers and do mass corpse explosion, literally the easiest fight in the game

Wrong Dallis fight.

[Pyromus]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Originally posted by God Himself:

teleport her onto the corpses where Vredeman destroyed all the seekers and do mass corpse explosion, literally the easiest fight in the game

Wrong Dallis fight.

^

The most fun way I've done it is by covering the majority of fort joy in rain, starting the cutscene, then using contamination to turn it all to poison and having a candle lit on the water so it turns into a massive black pit level of fire. Then blast them from the ledge outside of Orivand's office near the "fort" entrance.

[warichan]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

All you have to do is pick up all the poison and oil barrels you come across. Put them in a chest. Put the chest next to Alexander, blow up the chest so that the barrels come out. Start the fight from high up, and fight as normal until all are dead.

I tried this with the same video above. I still don't know where is wrong in my setup.

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Easiest way is just blocking the paths to the wall and teleporting one of them into a ring of chairs then blasting them from range. There’s far more options than deathfog or lone wolf.

Originally posted by Pyromus:

The most fun way I've done it is by covering the majority of fort joy in rain, starting the cutscene, then using contamination to turn it all to poison and having a candle lit on the water so it turns into a massive black pit level of fire. Then blast them from the ledge outside of Orivand's office near the "fort" entrance.

Lol these, I never think these option if you guys didn't mention. Yes this is an option also.

[Chaoslink]

I mean, I can link some screenshots of my method later... it’s pretty great. Basically every barrel, crate or loose object in the entire fort piled up in the gate. From baskets to candles, the thing was a work of art more than a barricade.

[Lethan]

a slow method, is to gather candles... and build a wall. It's not quick, but you can as a level 1 - beat the whole encounter -- eventually.

For whatever reason, Candles are immortal and the AI never remove items.

[Chaoslink]

I mean, this is what I did...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1527568621

Might be overkill, but it was glorious once I blew up all the oil barrels.