Eternal Aetera WTF?

[Xeno]

I would think that you are not supposed to be able to win this fight but I get a game over when I lose. She literally wipes out my entire party before a single character gets to move once. Is there some trick to this fight or is it just piss poor balancing?

[Senki]

Try to find/craft water resistance potions and dont keep your characters grouped.And evasive aura or evade/chameleon cloak on more characters helps with the dogs.

[Chaoslink]

Try and predict where a fight might happen. That room is a literal dead end of a cave, a boss fight should be expected. You should be splitting your team up and putting them in better positions prior to the fight. I did my first time around. If you just have them always on follow, you’re just asking to get AoE’d. There are random ambushes I can understand not expecting, but most fights are pretty predictable, even when no NPC is nearby.

[Nights]

go first and one shot her, just like every boss fight in the game

[Godwoken Dovahkiin]

She kicked my ass pretty good the first time. I made every mistake in the book, kept my characters grouped up, didn't use uncanny evasion, my warrior didn't have medusa head, I didn't use items like I should've or things available to me, low initiative, no set up before the fight (Funny enough, casting rain on the floor makes Aeteras AI work differently) etc.

How I beat her, my pyromage killing the summons, my hydromage supporting and CC the summons, my rogue and warrior going full ham on that dry ancient lady. It was tough and it forced me to think differently in how I should be approaching fights, no more casual approaches, no more starting fights without thinking, no more being unprepared.

[Shellbie]

Unfortunately, the game relies heavily on trial and error.

[Schrader]

If you kill her and her minions, you should win the fight.

[gregfromthepeg]

Don't feel too bad. I found this a brutal fight my first time through. I still find it hard if I forget to position properly or have fun builds instead of optimized builds.

Positioning and having a powerful phys dmg dealer positioned near her at the start helps a lot. If you don't need movement, and use adrenaline, you can likely strip the pys armour and knock her down. Hopefully you can use your magic dealers to cc the minions. They need to be spread further away.

You didn't mention your character builds or level. I am assuming your level is equal to the fight?

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Shellbie:

Unfortunately, the game relies heavily on trial and error.

It relies heavily on preparation, planning and paying attention. Trial and error only come into play when you fail those things. Most players aren’t used to the things that you need to succeed in this game without having to just fail and try again.

[Yojo0o]

Are you her level? Because if you found your way down there while still level 12-ish, you're gonna have a bad time.

She's probably one of the hardest fights in act 2, but she's manageable. Since she ambushes you (though if you've played any game before, that room screams "boss fight" pretty loudly), it's one of the bigger checks of armor and initiative of the act. If you've been scraping by with outdated gear and zero wits, this is the point where the game tells you that won't fly any more.

[Kyutaru]

Go to Formation and change yours to not be a cluster. Thank me later.

[Shellbie]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Originally posted by Shellbie:

Unfortunately, the game relies heavily on trial and error.

It relies heavily on preparation, planning and paying attention. Trial and error only come into play when you fail those things. Most players aren’t used to the things that you need to succeed in this game without having to just fail and try again.

No amount of preparation can save you against random encounters or monsters that you need to kill in a certain way or my favorite the ferryman in act 2.

[Yojo0o]

Originally posted by Shellbie:

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

It relies heavily on preparation, planning and paying attention. Trial and error only come into play when you fail those things. Most players aren’t used to the things that you need to succeed in this game without having to just fail and try again.

No amount of preparation can save you against random encounters or monsters that you need to kill in a certain way or my favorite the ferryman in act 2.

I can't think of a single monster in this game that must be killed in a "certain way", other than enemies with blatant buffs like "water immunity" or similar.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Shellbie:

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

It relies heavily on preparation, planning and paying attention. Trial and error only come into play when you fail those things. Most players aren’t used to the things that you need to succeed in this game without having to just fail and try again.

No amount of preparation can save you against random encounters or monsters that you need to kill in a certain way or my favorite the ferryman in act 2.

Never met a fight in the game like that honestly. I think the only fight I found myself truly unprepared for was that genie from the lamp. There were a few ambushes that I didn't see coming that I couldn't set up for, but that didn't stop me from getting the upper hand. Just because you didn't do anything to prepare for it, doesn't mean there's no way to be prepared.

[Xeno]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Originally posted by Shellbie:

Unfortunately, the game relies heavily on trial and error.

It relies heavily on preparation, planning and paying attention. Trial and error only come into play when you fail those things. Most players aren’t used to the things that you need to succeed in this game without having to just fail and try again.

In this case the fight seems to rely on you cheesing to be able to win. I was the same level as her and it was literally impossible to beat her without abusing the game mechanics. I had to conversation lock her and then use another character to teleport her away or she wiped my entire party first round before I even got a turn off, every single time. That's just bad design.

This is the kind of thing that makes me think they didn't even bother to do play testing before they released the game.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Xeno:

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

It relies heavily on preparation, planning and paying attention. Trial and error only come into play when you fail those things. Most players aren’t used to the things that you need to succeed in this game without having to just fail and try again.

In this case the fight seems to rely on you cheesing to be able to win. I was the same level as her and it was literally impossible to beat her without abusing the game mechanics. I had to conversation lock her and then use another character to teleport her away or she wiped my entire party first round before I even got a turn off, every single time. That's just bad design.

This is the kind of thing that makes me think they didn't even bother to do play testing before they released the game.

I mean, I don't see how she can kill your whole party in one turn if your whole party isn't clumped up. Unchain those portraits and move your team around the room before starting the fight. You should be doing that for 90% of all fights. It shouldn't be uncommon that some of your characters don't even get pulled into the fight to start and you sacrifice your place in the turn order for a free hit.

This fight doesn't require cheese, none of them do. You just have to change up your approach.