Kemm Vault/Arhu fight

[tommy]

Is it at all possible to save Arhu in Kemms vault?
I can win the fight OK but I have tried six times now and each time, despite healing and teleporting Arhu to corners, he gets nuked by some big instant death spell.

Please can someone end my suffering?

This is truly a great game but heavens, it be frustrating in the extreme!

[El Macho]

Yep. What I did first is to teleport arhu away from the fight.
Next while it is still my turn, I took out those mages up in the balcony then I CC'd kemm with my warrior.

[Luxia]

I permafrosted him.
To my surprise, the spell worked much more like "perma" and had effect for entirety of the fight.

[Gregorovitch]

I didn't save him first attempt, Kemm got him pretty much straight away. Then I tried again a couple of times, but got a bit fed up with it, so didn't bother, just talked to him using sprit vision after the fight.

From a story perspective, I think he's supposed to die really. Kemm goes straight for him and the only way to save him is playing the fight with 20/20 hindsight usaing specific pre-planned actions to extricate him from Kemm's clutches. On Tactician anyway.

I don't think there's any meaningfull change to the story as a result of saving him and talking to him alive rather than dead. And if there's a bit of extra loot and XP, I thought so what? By that stage of the game it doesn't really matter anyway.

But I guess if you really want to save him I think you got to teleport him away from Kemm, keep Kemm locked down and also prevent Kemm's adds from getting at him, so I guess it sepends on your party composition and builds and your choice of teleport position how to do that. You probably got to have enough intiative to do this before Kemm get's a chance to one-shot him.

[Gamebot]

You have already unlocked 3SP magic skills, so it shouldn't be the problem. Just equip 4 Nether Swap/4Teleportation/4Adrenaline, stack all 5 enemies(including Kemm) at the same spot, and pour MagicCC, Stomp, Knock Down Arrow etc. You don't need to move Arhu. Just stack every enemy at the corner of the room. You should be able to Chain CC 2~3 enemies from the 1st turn and CC the rest of the enemies on the 2nd turn, then the combat will end at 3rd~4th turn.

If you can't CC enemies, it could mean that your build/attributes/ability/gear stats are not optimal, so fixing the builds mostly solves the problem.

[Gamebot]

Originally posted by Raddenson11:

I permafrosted him.
To my surprise, the spell worked much more like "perma" and had effect for entirety of the fight.

Right, Cryogenic Stasis, Living on the Edge, Guardian Angel are also good solutions for rescue missions like Gwydian-oil blob, black ring Nikor, Arhu.

[tommy]

Thanks for your replies guys.
The problem for me is only one of my team (warrior) gets to move before the opposition and then I find one or two of my team frozen/stunned/charmed etc before my 2nd character has a turn.

Guess Gamebot is correct I may need to rebalance in some way.

Still, I have had my bellyfull of this fight and so, if the plot is not compromised in any way will just talk to Arhus ghost and be done with it.

On another playthrough I will be more mindful and build accordingly.

[Stabbey]

I moved Arhu into the corner using Netherswap, and then I used a healing spell on him, after that I had no problem. He was completely ignored by everyone.

[Vorp]

Arhu survived in my playthrough without any issue. I just kept Kemm stunned or frozen all the time during fight. But I played at classic difficulty.

[Gregorovitch]

Originally posted by Gamebot:

Right, Cryogenic Stasis, Living on the Edge, Guardian Angel are also good solutions for rescue missions like Gwydian-oil blob, black ring Nikor, Arhu.

Yes, if I play through again I will def look at having a stack of those sort of things on hand. As you say trhey are very useful in a lot of these type of situations.

[xdibx]

pls spoiler alerts =\

[tommy]

Hi All,

Well I am playing on Classic (not even Tactician - *shudder* - and all respetct to those who are good enough to do so) but as I have admitted, perhaps Gamebot is correct in that for this *particular fight* I am not best suited.

Other fights I see online that folks have struggled with, my party has breezed through with no problem at all.

I suppose, in this game, it is very difficult to assemble the *perfect* party for ALL types of fights unless you have played through several times or refered to the various walkthroughs that spawn and will, in the end, make the game a *do this and win* waste of time.

I want to fail sometimes, but just not this much...

[Rodders]

For anyone else having trouble with that fight u cant easily kill him with a crate of death fog from the thieves guild n then have an undead loot his body

[danbjp]

I've never had a problem with this fight as I've always killed Kemm beforehand. What you could do is to position your chars behind the mages atop the platform before the last move when he's set free - then you'll be in a better position to attack the mobs; and hopefully you can do better from there; it worked for me.

GL

[rasmasyean]

I don't know if this is useful or not, but I teleported Arhu to the Source Fountain and started dousing him with Source until he was full I guess. It took maybe 2? (unless I miscounted...or I could have left something on the floor before the battle and he drank it maybe) and they didn't attack him. Not sure if that's a puzzle or just lucky.

When you ask him to fight, he said he was out of Source so I thought that Fountain was there for you to revive him for battle. But he just sat there glowing green or something so I thought I had to heal him up completely, but then the battle was practically over.

Tactician (Honour), if that matters.

[AsianGirlLover]

Question: do you gain more XP for following Kemm’s questline and allowing him to confront you in his vault, or by confronting him about his Black Ring connections while he’s surrounded by Paladins?

Either way, not confronting him while he’s raiding the library seems like it would award you less XP, since you’re missing out on murdering those innocent, misguided paladins.