Final Fight....Are You Kidding Me?

[Moose8010]

So after pouring in countless hours into this game I get to the final battle. After half a dozen tries getting slaughtered choosing the option not to surrender to Lucian, I gave up and switched over to allow Lucian and his team to help in the second phase. And lo and behold, the Doctor appears and my weak party AFTER I've still taken a huge beating, gets wiped. I loved Divinity 1 but I got to a point where I felt like Divinity 2 was just throwing needless fights at me and wanted to rush through the game just to finish it. This final fight, even after gearing up left me feeling disappointed and almost like leveling and attaining all this gear was pointless. I killed the Doctor with only my tank alive with around 200 hp. It just felt hollow and killed my enjoyment at the end of the game.

[AsianGirlLover]

You were warned that the doctor would be trouble yet you allowed him to live anyway. Of course it would bite you in the ass in the end.

[Chaoslink]

I mean, the final fight throws a wrench in the usual tactics. You get infinite source so spam them source spells. However, the enemy is going to be formiddable. You need to have plans for escape and regrouping. LOTS of POTIONS of all kinds help massively here as you can drink while invisible. If everyone pops an invisibility potion while the enemies duke it out with one another, you can pop armor and healing potions and any others you have to gain an edge before jumping back into the fray.

Also yes. Killing the Doctor before the final fight is important. HE's the wild card all game long and you gotta plan for him.

Also, team comp makes a difference. You mentioned a "tank" character. That alone tells me why you struggled a bit. The rest of you team builds would tell the full story.

[AsianGirlLover]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

I mean, the final fight throws a wrench in the usual tactics. You get infinite source so spam them source spells.

Fane, Adrenaline, Time Warp, Skin Graft.... Time warp all your allies, rinse and repeat. As a certain Shinigami would say:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRdlkneMbQ0

[Amix]

I thought this is toughest battle at first too.
But after playing this for 500+ hours, I have gained enough experience that my single party member can defeat all of them in one turn.
Without even glass canon. In tactician or honour mode.
And BTW as soon as you hit nameless Isle, forget about using anything else than source skills.
I will share the strategy with you. If you are interested.
Hint: Champions are made with the help of items.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Amix:

I thought this is toughest battle at first too.
But after playing this for 500+ hours, I have gained enough experience that my single party member can defeat all of them in one turn.
Without even glass canon. In tactician or honour mode.
And BTW as soon as you hit nameless Isle, forget about using anything else than source skills.
I will share the strategy with you. If you are interested.
Hint: Champions are made with the help of items.

Eh, source makes the game too easy. I try to avoid using it almost entirely. The game is easy enough without the “I win” button of source ultimates.

[Stormwind]

Originally posted by Moose8010:

So after pouring in countless hours into this game I get to the final battle. After half a dozen tries getting slaughtered choosing the option not to surrender to Lucian, I gave up and switched over to allow Lucian and his team to help in the second phase. And lo and behold, the Doctor appears and my weak party AFTER I've still taken a huge beating, gets wiped. I loved Divinity 1 but I got to a point where I felt like Divinity 2 was just throwing needless fights at me and wanted to rush through the game just to finish it. This final fight, even after gearing up left me feeling disappointed and almost like leveling and attaining all this gear was pointless. I killed the Doctor with only my tank alive with around 200 hp. It just felt hollow and killed my enjoyment at the end of the game.

Whaaaat you killed him with 200 points left, that is the most awesome ending ever! It cant get any better than that!

[rasmasyean]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

I mean, the final fight throws a wrench in the usual tactics. You get infinite source so spam them source spells. However, the enemy is going to be formiddable. You need to have plans for escape and regrouping. LOTS of POTIONS of all kinds help massively here as you can drink while invisible. If everyone pops an invisibility potion while the enemies duke it out with one another, you can pop armor and healing potions and any others you have to gain an edge before jumping back into the fray.

Also yes. Killing the Doctor before the final fight is important. HE's the wild card all game long and you gotta plan for him.

Also, team comp makes a difference. You mentioned a "tank" character. That alone tells me why you struggled a bit. The rest of you team builds would tell the full story.

I didn't find it that hard in my Tactician Honour blind run. I used a "tank", although much of my team also had a lot of defensive specs and gears which allowed them to endure much damage with potions and stuff.

My first go, I actually killed Braccus with Fane and "Pyroclastic Erruption" in the 1st phase so the 2nd phase never happened. Then I reloaded twice to not kill him first and try different strats. First was just to kill everyone in sight. I won. Second was to let them fight each other and try to save Dallas. Saving didn't work...but still won.

Oh, I also tried to Mind Control the Krakken. This was pretty hard, but once you can MC him, you basically won.

Honestly, the only annoying thing about that fight was the Sallow Man with his plague thing. I think you need to kill him first to make it easier.

[Pyromus]

Originally posted by rasmasyean:

I didn't find it that hard in my Tactician Honour blind run. I used a "tank", although much of my team also had a lot of defensive specs and gears which allowed them to endure much damage with potions and stuff.

My first go, I actually killed Braccus with Fane and "Pyroclastic Erruption" in the 1st phase so the 2nd phase never happened. Then I reloaded twice to not kill him first and try different strats. First was just to kill everyone in sight. I won. Second was to let them fight each other and try to save Dallas. Saving didn't work...but still won.

Oh, I also tried to Mind Control the Krakken. This was pretty hard, but once you can MC him, you basically won.

Honestly, the only annoying thing about that fight was the Sallow Man with his plague thing. I think you need to kill him first to make it easier.

Yeah, pyroclastic (and to a slightly lesser extent, thunderstorm and bloodstorm) will win you the fight pretty much right away. Especially with a teleport or netherswap placement made ahead of time. The unlimited source here makes things even easier.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Stormwind:

Whaaaat you killed him with 200 points left, that is the most awesome ending ever! It cant get any better than that!

My first time beating the game was even closer. Only one character remaining, standing in and burning from necrofire, on only 27 health. Even one step would kill me and I had just two AP from the adrenaline debuff. Braccus had enough health remaining that I’d only be able to finish him off if my attack got a critical hit, with just a 61% crit chance. I didn’t really have the AP to heal and it’s not be enough to save me anyway. I had to do one final attack and hope it was enough to finish him. I don’t remember the actual damage numbers of the attack, but I killed him with something like 10-20 damage overkill even with the critical hit. Even if I didn’t get attacked, I’d have died immediately after combat or on my next turn from necrofire. That last 2ap was literally do or die. To come within less than 25 damage of not dealing enough, I can’t imagine a closer call than that.

[Stormwind]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Originally posted by Stormwind:

Whaaaat you killed him with 200 points left, that is the most awesome ending ever! It cant get any better than that!

My first time beating the game was even closer. Only one character remaining, standing in and burning from necrofire, on only 27 health. Even one step would kill me and I had just two AP from the adrenaline debuff. Braccus had enough health remaining that I’d only be able to finish him off if my attack got a critical hit, with just a 61% crit chance. I didn’t really have the AP to heal and it’s not be enough to save me anyway. I had to do one final attack and hope it was enough to finish him. I don’t remember the actual damage numbers of the attack, but I killed him with something like 10-20 damage overkill even with the critical hit. Even if I didn’t get attacked, I’d have died immediately after combat or on my next turn from necrofire. That last 2ap was literally do or die. To come within less than 25 damage of not dealing enough, I can’t imagine a closer call than that.

Great Ending!

Iv'e had a few close battles, those are really the best. I had my main character learn that self sacrificing necro spell just for such an occasion, I hope he really needs it to save the battle sometime.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Stormwind:

Great Ending!

Iv'e had a few close battles, those are really the best. I had my main character learn that self sacrificing necro spell just for such an occasion, I hope he really needs it to save the battle sometime.

Well, it wasn't so great in the end. Because that last standing character wasn't a player made one, not only did our characters fail to get Divinity, when the game shifted to the epilogue on the ship it was instant game over because we never got revived after winning. It just teleported the gore that was once our characters onto the Vengeance and popped the game over screen since the only living companion was removed from the team.

[AscendedViking7]

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

You were warned that the doctor would be trouble yet you allowed him to live anyway. Of course it would bite you in the ass in the end.

Guess OP didn't realize his choices actually matter in Divinity: Original Sin II.

[rasmasyean]

Originally posted by Pyromus:

Originally posted by rasmasyean:

I didn't find it that hard in my Tactician Honour blind run. I used a "tank", although much of my team also had a lot of defensive specs and gears which allowed them to endure much damage with potions and stuff.

My first go, I actually killed Braccus with Fane and "Pyroclastic Erruption" in the 1st phase so the 2nd phase never happened. Then I reloaded twice to not kill him first and try different strats. First was just to kill everyone in sight. I won. Second was to let them fight each other and try to save Dallas. Saving didn't work...but still won.

Oh, I also tried to Mind Control the Krakken. This was pretty hard, but once you can MC him, you basically won.

Honestly, the only annoying thing about that fight was the Sallow Man with his plague thing. I think you need to kill him first to make it easier.

Yeah, pyroclastic (and to a slightly lesser extent, thunderstorm and bloodstorm) will win you the fight pretty much right away. Especially with a teleport or netherswap placement made ahead of time. The unlimited source here makes things even easier.

Yeah, that's exactly what I did. I just teleported them next to each other without even knowing what I was doing. The funny thing is, I thought Lucian was the target, who I tried to separate him really far so he had to run to me while I theoretically kill all the adds. Cuz I figured I would not be able to kill him in round 1. This is like the 2nd time I used this OP spell and all I needed was like 1 Skin Graft scroll with Fane I think. Plus those Teas of course.

I was soooo disappointed cuz I took days to prepare for this fight with like 100 scrolls and potions and dressing my barbie dolls perfectly. rofl
Then I looked a video and figured I'd redo it to fight the 2nd phase.