Heal potions kill me?

[SigmaLance]

I am currently fighting Alexander and the giant void worm and when I use a heling potion on a toon it damages them. What can be casuing this?

[lolschrauber]

Some Status effect. Decay or something. Check your (de)buffs

[PlanetBoB]

are you are an undead character ?

[HEY]

That alexander fight has a few cursed blood puddles. If you stand in it, while you dont have any armor it gives you the status effect called decay. Decay makes it so that if you heal yourself you will instead get dmg the same ammount as heal.

[Chaoslink]

Clear decay with fortify and you’ll be fine. Watch out for decay, it’ll become more common as you progress.

[mrmike_49]

It is a MAJOR PITA!!!
I'm actually searching for a mod to remove it from game, as it it too big a PITA to deal with.

If you have low armor, standing in cursed blood or necrofire, then enemies will concentrate on you to lower your armor and curse you!

To fix the curse, you need to:
1) Move to an uncursed area
2) Cast Bless spell - which requires Source point to do!!! (mod to change this is available)
3) Cast Heal/drink Potion

so usually minimum 2 turns to do all that, while getting attacked with no armor on, loosing health constantly, targeted because you're now the weakest.

Between this Cursed mechanism, no manual, an almost ALL enemies having magic, when I get around to writing a review for this game, it will be THUMBS DOWN!

[LaserGuy]

Just don't let the enemy run you out of armor and you'll be fine.

[Qiox]

Originally posted by mrmike_49:

It is a MAJOR PITA!!!
I'm actually searching for a mod to remove it from game, as it it too big a PITA to deal with.

If you have low armor, standing in cursed blood or necrofire, then enemies will concentrate on you to lower your armor and curse you!

To fix the curse, you need to:
1) Move to an uncursed area
2) Cast Bless spell - which requires Source point to do!!! (mod to change this is available)
3) Cast Heal/drink Potion

so usually minimum 2 turns to do all that, while getting attacked with no armor on, loosing health constantly, targeted because you're now the weakest.

Between this Cursed mechanism, no manual, an almost ALL enemies having magic, when I get around to writing a review for this game, it will be THUMBS DOWN!

Those are not your only options.

Have you really not considered the possibility that you just don't know the game all that well yet? Perhaps your first thought should be to ask for advice instead of asking for the game to be changed.

The 1 step ways of getting out of the situation:

Use a 1 AP mobility skill such as: Phoenix Dive, Cloak & Dagger, Tactical Retreat, Nether Swap
or
Cast Terrain Mutation for 1 AP


There you go, a bunch of different abilities that cost only 1 AP that will get you out of the cursed blood.

The enemies have exactly the same abilities as you have available for your characters. You should be learning and improving your own tactics by seeing what they do to you.

If you don't like games that require thinking and planning and figuring things out, that's fine. But saying you are going to downvote it because of that is a childish reaction.

[mrmike_49]

The single biggest fault with the game is lack of a manual: that gives a -1 1/2 stars (out of five) right there. The other issue are minor, but cumulative problems, pushing my "thumb" over the limit to DOWN.

I've seen the enemy use most of those spells, I have none of those spells, don't remember seeing them for sale (still in Fort Joy, obviously)

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by mrmike_49:

The single biggest fault with the game is lack of a manual: that gives a -1 1/2 stars (out of five) right there. The other issue are minor, but cumulative problems, pushing my "thumb" over the limit to DOWN.

I've seen the enemy use most of those spells, I have none of those spells, don't remember seeing them for sale (still in Fort Joy, obviously)

Fortify. Sold by the odd elf on the beach. Removes decaying and restores armor to prevent it reapplying. Then you use mend metal or heart of steel to keep it topped off. Problem solved. I go entire games without using bless save for quest stuff like the cursed lever on fort joy. Otherwise you don’t really need it unless you’re doing some real shenanigans like using a crossbow 5 levels too high.

[Phoenix.]

Originally posted by mrmike_49:

The single biggest fault with the game is lack of a manual: that gives a -1 1/2 stars (out of five) right there. The other issue are minor, but cumulative problems, pushing my "thumb" over the limit to DOWN.

It's not the game's fault you are not the target audience.
It's a crpg, gamers are expected to use their brain instead of having a manual that tells them how to play.
Like that games "journalist" who complained bc he wasnt able to jump over that barrier in cuphead...

[Neku]

Originally posted by mrmike_49:

The single biggest fault with the game is lack of a manual: that gives a -1 1/2 stars (out of five) right there. The other issue are minor, but cumulative problems, pushing my "thumb" over the limit to DOWN.

I've seen the enemy use most of those spells, I have none of those spells, don't remember seeing them for sale (still in Fort Joy, obviously)

I will give you one of the easiest starts so you stop complaing, it will get you out of fort joy in no time.
1- Pick a human( doesnt have to lohse or Ifan, just my preference and not required)
2-Pick the summoner class
3- Before you finish creating your character pick the Lone wolf trait. This will make you OP.
4- Once in fort Joy I tend to pick lohse as my only partner, remeber to buy a the healing spell from the blue lizard and give it to her, she will be your support chara.
5- Upgrade smmoner skill to 10. The Incarnet you will summon will kill pretty much everything. Fire and earth incarnet are my fave but water is great too if you want an extra healer.
6-Make sure that when you level up you give Lohse the Lone wolf trait as well.
7- Sit back and relax
8- I barely even move during battle
9-...profit.

[SigmaLance]

Originally posted by PlanetBoB:

are you are an undead character ?

I do have onein my party, but he wasn't the one having problems. The only problem I have with him is after a battle where it takes a few minutes to cast poison on the ground to get him to heal. Is there an easier way?

Originally posted by HEY:

That alexander fight has a few cursed blood puddles. If you stand in it, while you dont have any armor it gives you the status effect called decay. Decay makes it so that if you heal yourself you will instead get dmg the same ammount as heal.

This is what it had to have been. I wasn't aware that there are different blood puddles - thanks!

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Clear decay with fortify and you’ll be fine. Watch out for decay, it’ll become more common as you progress.

Appreciate the heads up. I will pay more attention in the future!

[Phoenix.]

Originally posted by SigmaLance:

I do have onein my party, but he wasn't the one having problems. The only problem I have with him is after a battle where it takes a few minutes to cast poison on the ground to get him to heal. Is there an easier way?

After combat just use bedroll.
You can also create poisoned potions by using this weird poison talon thing one of the magisters in the paladin Cork fight drops. They work like normal potions on undead chars.
Necromancer spells like blood sucker work on undead chars, and rallying cry too afaik.

[Chaoslink]

Bedrolls. If you missed the pile of them on the ship, there is one over near the blue lizard in fort joy who sells the hydro skill books, just on the other side of the little path leading into Griff's kitchen. Toss that on your skillbar and anytime you click on it, it should fully heal the party within a radius and apply the rested buff. Anyone with rested cannot heal again until it wears off from using the bedroll, but even if your character is rested you can still use it again if another party member was outside the range.

As for Fane, you can actually just heal him with poison bottles. You can use the talon thing to convert healing potions, but instead, I recommend just finding a poison barrel and combining it with empty potion bottles. You can make as many as you want from one barrel, as well as poison your melee (and bow) weapons for added damage. Bear in mind that poison damage heals undead though so it'll actually work against you slightly (it isn't too much damage) when fighting undead.

[Zero]

Or find poison wand or poison staff. Then attack your undead character. Free healing outside or even in combat.