Hannag evil or not? Kill or not?

[WitchRanger]

Hi ppl, (*minor spoiler)

Ruuning into the source master Hannag (the Undead Lizard lady who casts lava). I don't need her stuff nor her source, juat want to ask what's her background story? Is she evil?

I'm seriously considering killing her for moral reasons:

1. Her way of source kills every animal in the forest (If you learn from her)
2. As far as I know, the first sourcerer that actully SUMMONs voidwokens on her own free will, and come back to life after that. (If you aggro her)

The funny thing is that, from a game design perspective, you don't know these stuff when you were asked to choose bwtween her and the magisters, naturally you would help her, I know this only when I accidently learned from her and accidently aggroed her on 2nd attempts.

Though her apprentice (?) Gwydian seems alright, so I'm not sure what exactly is happening here, she seems very 'randomly' evil to me.

Morally speaking, kill or not?

[Sgáthach]

Ask her for her background story and then make a decision yourself :)

Noone can make this decision for you, it's your game and your run.

If you have Ifan in your party, he will interract with her as well and there will be more options on how you want to proceed, as well as his reaction on either of your choices.

[Vorp]

She is hot, that's for sure, plus she gives source point, so I kept her alive :3

[My name donut!]

Firstly complete her task then kill and you get max points from Hannag

[Syrris]

There are a fair number of characters in the game whose evil is born more out of necessity or circumstance than desire, and others who are (or have been) evil and regret it. Some of the source trainers fall into those categories.

Ruthless and machiavellian as she is, Is Hannag one of them? Maybe. Is is a capital offense in any case? Maybe. She definitely isn't a do-gooder, but the do-gooders in the setting generally don't behave much better (and in many cases behave much worse).

[Chaoslink]

She is also the craftsman of the deathfog bombs that Lucian used in the past and the one intended for Arx. So... consider that too.

[Awake]

Yeeah years later but I just started the game (after BG3) and had the same.. predicament. If she is really evil or not and this is what I have to add: if you ask her about he bomb she says she served Lucian as best she could and did create the bomb. But also says she wouldn't do it again if she could. So this solves it for me.

[Calico-Jack]

Originally posted by Awake:

Yeeah years later but I just started the game (after BG3) and had the same.. predicament. If she is really evil or not and this is what I have to add: if you ask her about he bomb she says she served Lucian as best she could and did create the bomb. But also says she wouldn't do it again if she could. So this solves it for me.

Ahh the "only following orders" defence, Ifan interestingly could also say this but doesn't. Should you try to enhance your source powers through Hannag, you'll note her teachings have a similar disregard for the mass loss of innocent lives as her invention. Mordus on the other hand, whilst also being a mass murder, simply has a questionable diet.

Originally posted by WitchRanger:

her apprentice (?) Gwydian seems alright, so I'm not sure what exactly is happening here.

Again without going spoiler heavy - you meet him much like Hannag, as a fugitive, at the same time as running into the most trusted of the Order hell bent on purging sourcerers.

For me the issue boils down to:

Would those same Whites be taking the same actions under another pretext? I think yes. The Torquemadas of this world are only looking for an outlet for otherwise unacceptable behaviour.

Is Gwydian Hannag’s apprentice by accident or by choice?

Hannag is probably one of the easier of the Source Masters to learn from, the others all have more arduous tasks than killing a few magisters, if that is, you agree with her teachings.

Gwydian presumeably was learning from Hannag, with the resulting “lessons” drawing the magisters. And yet despite the attentions of magisters, Gwydian was still properly star-struck with the power Hannag displayed. Even after learning what happened after he was arrested, he still went off in search of Hannag.

[Samael7]

Originally posted by Calico-Jack:

Ahh the "only following orders" defence, Ifan interestingly could also say this but doesn't. Should you try to enhance your source powers through Hannag, you'll note her teachings have a similar disregard for the mass loss of innocent lives as her invention.

If you let Ifan confront Hannag after finding out her role from the dwarf "scientist":

Ifan: She was a soldier following orders. Just like me. Let her live with the torment of her actions...just as I have to.

I also did follow up after that convo with Hannag, when I "ask her if she truly crafted the Deathfog bomb, as Zanisima claims":

Hannag: My crowning glory and the millstone around my neck. Yes, I made the bomb. I served Luciana best I could. I gave him what he asked. Would I do it again? No, I would not.

I let Hannag live. (She might be lying, but my PC is a bard-styled bon vivant lizard woman, less interested in bloodshed than making terrible jokes that just seem to piss people off. The JESTER tag is not for the faint of heart.)

[BOT]

get your sourcepoints then kill everyone at the map =)