Dome of Protection

[wulfgar333]

Infuriating. I have restarted new game after being unable of finish original DOS2 2years ago and the Definitive edition states that Dome of Protection is unavailable if you do not generate a "custom character". So many insane fights and this ability not available? You have to start an entirely new game? I am now level 8 in this new game and am now so angry regarding this will be bagging this game altogether if I must start yet again. Any suggestions, workarounds etc to get DOME OF PROTECTION ability/spell with premade characters?

[Fryskar]

You can only cheat/mod it in, at least i wouldn't be surprised if there is one for.
All premade chars got another ability.
You can play it just fine w.o. the dome.
Btw the premade only quests might help you more in the end.

If you need actual combat tips you might want to add the diff you play on an the classes you want to use.

[Chaoslink]

I mean, if you need the Dome of Protection ability often enough that it is a problem you can't get it, there are other underlying issues you can resolve to remedy that. It isn't that strong of an ability and you shouldn't really need it.

There's nothing wrong with it being unavailable, I mean without Fane in the party you don't have access to his OP time warp ability. Each premade has their own unique ability and most of them are trash with the rest being very niche.

Either way, I guarantee that I could remedy your need for Dome with a bit of assistance adjusting your character builds. 100%, your issue lies there.

[Interrobang]

Dome of Protection is a convenience but it shouldn't make or break your party. If it does, there are other more important problems with your party composition that you should be concerned with (elemental coverage, number of physical vs magical attackers, lack of support spells or not, etc).

[wulfgar333]

Well interestingly enough I have not used or needed the DOP so far. (Lvl 7-8) But I distinctly recall several fights, Alexander being one, where it appeared absolutely essential. If there is a mod that provides it, I would very possibly use it when it seemed absolutely essential. Thanks for the responses all, appreciate the feedback.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by wulfgar333:

Well interestingly enough I have not used or needed the DOP so far. (Lvl 7-8) But I distinctly recall several fights, Alexander being one, where it appeared absolutely essential. If there is a mod that provides it, I would very possibly use it when it seemed absolutely essential. Thanks for the responses all, appreciate the feedback.

You should have access to Mend Metal and Fortify to replenish physical armor and Armor of Frost and Soothing Cold for replenishing Magic armor. A point or two in Poly can offer your characters chameleon cloak, great for escaping danger on the spot. Alongside spot uses of uncanny dodge from Aero to avoid incoming physical damage (like the assassin or gheist in that fight) you really shouldn't need it. Utilize Worm Tremor alongside the Torturer talent if possible, being able to deny a group of enemies all movement for 3 turns is ridiculous.

Dome can come in clutch I admit, but you really shouldn't find yourself in those situations to begin with. Especially since Dome is really only good for one character anyway. If you clump up in it, you're hurting yourself more than helping as AoE will rip you apart.

[Dragon]

Originally posted by wulfgar333:

Infuriating. I have restarted new game after being unable of finish original DOS2 2years ago and the Definitive edition states that Dome of Protection is unavailable if you do not generate a "custom character". So many insane fights and this ability not available?

You are absolutely 100% right except for one thing: this problem existed in the original version too. I called out this very same issue on this board in regards to the original version, with very strong and rigorous complaints about it.

I rightly pointed out the same thing as you are in your OP: it's ludicrous that choosing an Origin character drastically gimps you, by completely making one of the very best & most necessary skills - namely Dome - entirely inaccessible to you.

The game is vastly easier (in terms of being fair to the player, not in terms of being overly-easy) & more balanced for a character who has Dome than it is for gimped characters who are unable to access it for a completely arbitrary reason that makes no sense at all.

And to add insult to injury, all of the Origin characters' alternative skills to Dome suck extremely badly (except for Fane's). They are not in any way comparable to the power of Dome whatsoever. (Myself and many others also pointed that out too with the original non-Definitive version, but apparently that doesn't matter, since evidently they never fixed these problems).

Making Dome inaccessible to every character other than Custom ones is nothing short of outright colossally terrible design, period.

[Dragon]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

It isn't that strong of an ability and you shouldn't really need it.

Saying Dome "isn't that strong" is complete nonsense. It's easily one of the most powerful and very best skills in the whole entire game.

The difference between having it and not having it is night and day in terms of how powerful your party is. A party with Dome has much more power than one without it.

And Dome makes all the difference in the world in Tactician mode.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

It isn't that strong of an ability and you shouldn't really need it.

Saying Dome "isn't that strong" is complete nonsense. It's easily one of the most powerful and very best skills in the whole entire game.

The difference between having it and not having it is night and day in terms of how powerful your party is. A party with Dome has much more power than one without it.

And Dome makes all the difference in the world in Tactician mode.

It... isn't and doesn't. It really isn't that strong. It helps with survivability only and that can be achieved much more effectively with other abilities. It only appears useful to a player who is already struggling in combat to begin with, and that can always be remedied using better builds or strategies. Once you do that, which you've chosen not to do and instead continually complain about the game instead, Dome stops being relevant because you don't find yourself in the situation where it helps. I play customs because I prefer playing my own race/gender combinations. I never use Dome, nor do I feel the need to. I ignore it just like I do the other source abilities. I basically never use source to begin with, even your normal ones like Chain lightning and such. Source is a crutch that makes the game too easy to begin with.

[RiftHunter4]

It's a good skill, but you shouldn't *need* it.

[GodfatherPlunger]

Originally posted by wulfgar333:

Well interestingly enough I have not used or needed the DOP so far. (Lvl 7-8) But I distinctly recall several fights, Alexander being one, where it appeared absolutely essential. If there is a mod that provides it, I would very possibly use it when it seemed absolutely essential. Thanks for the responses all, appreciate the feedback.

I played that fight with and without the definitive edition on tactician and I just googled that ability, because I didn't even know what it was. now that I know what it is, I can say: I never used it.
I guess it is not that important ;) I am playing a custom char btw, but never paid attention to source skills.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by GodfatherPlunger:

Originally posted by wulfgar333:

Well interestingly enough I have not used or needed the DOP so far. (Lvl 7-8) But I distinctly recall several fights, Alexander being one, where it appeared absolutely essential. If there is a mod that provides it, I would very possibly use it when it seemed absolutely essential. Thanks for the responses all, appreciate the feedback.

I played that fight with and without the definitive edition on tactician and I just googled that ability, because I didn't even know what it was. now that I know what it is, I can say: I never used it.
I guess it is not that important ;) I am playing a custom char btw, but never paid attention to source skills.

Pretty much the same effect can be gained by casting Soothing cold and Mend metal in short succession, but you have the added ability to move around afterwards.

[baggybaf]

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

It isn't that strong of an ability and you shouldn't really need it.

Saying Dome "isn't that strong" is complete nonsense. It's easily one of the most powerful and very best skills in the whole entire game.

The difference between having it and not having it is night and day in terms of how powerful your party is. A party with Dome has much more power than one without it.

And Dome makes all the difference in the world in Tactician mode.

hum no... sorry
If you know how to play, nothing is indispensable. it's a good skill but you just have'nt found out how to play without

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by baggybaf:

hum no... sorry
If you know how to play, nothing is indispensable. it's a good skill but you just have'nt found out how to play without

Yeah, but if you look at 90% of the things Dragon posts on here its all comes down to the same common denominator. Dragon doesn't like the combat/armor system and therefore doesn't try to learn how to work with it because its apparently so bad that it isn't worth learning about. So instead Dragon comes on the forum and says all the bad things possible like they're truth without supporting the claims.

Dome is good, it has its use. However, once the player is good, it stops being necessary as there are other things you can do to either avoid needing Dome, or that do the job better.

[baggybaf]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Originally posted by baggybaf:

hum no... sorry
If you know how to play, nothing is indispensable. it's a good skill but you just have'nt found out how to play without

Yeah, but if you look at 90% of the things Dragon posts on here its all comes down to the same common denominator. Dragon doesn't like the combat/armor system and therefore doesn't try to learn how to work with it because its apparently so bad that it isn't worth learning about. So instead Dragon comes on the forum and says all the bad things possible like they're truth without supporting the claims.

Dome is good, it has its use. However, once the player is good, it stops being necessary as there are other things you can do to either avoid needing Dome, or that do the job better.

exactly
I used this skill very little and when I saw his interest I had already learned to play without

[Mosey]

I beat the game on honor mode with three random players without dome, and no it wasn't hard. If you're leaning on dome, you're doing it wrong and I assume you haven't played long enough to encounter the actually useful source spells.

Not only that, but even if you feel it's a 'must' spell simply roll one custom character. You certainly don't need more than one dome, if you think you need it at all.

Dome is a trap that lures all your characters into a handy AoE murderhole.

Frankly, I've beaten the game without using any source spells at all and no that wasn't hard either. You'd be better served using offensive source spells and not wasting your time on protections that barely protect you. Any mode past exploration becomes more and more of a DPS race, and wasting AP on protections is indeed wasting AP.

If you want OP source skills, play Fane and enjoy nearly infinite AP. Jesus H. Christ.