Arx -- Running out of Source

[Seether]

Am I missing something obvious, or is the game reversing course in Act 4 and encouraging Source conservation?

Act 1 (Fort Joy) -- There is a replenishing pool of Source in Act 1. I'm not sure when I gained Bless, but I don't recall using it much. I may not have had any other abilities that used Source in Act 1. I don't think so. Anyway, unlimited Source.

Act 2 (Reaper's Coast) -- There is a replenishing pool of Source in a convenient spot. You have the opportunity to use all of your Source almost whenever you like, replenish, and then return to whatever you were doing.

Act 3 (Nameless Isle) -- I never found a replenishing pool of Source, but between those already dead and those you made dead, there were a lot of souls to consume. Most even had the decency to be bad guys. Never ran out, although I didn't use Source with quite the abandon I did in Act 2. Part of this is because I "got ahead in level" at the end of Act 2 and was a level more powerful than most encounters in Act 3.

Act 4 (Arx) -- I've finished the Outskirts, Harbor, and much of Arx. I think all that is left is the Klemm mansion, the Doctor, and the Cathedral, which I plan to do in that order. I've used a fair amount of Source so far. I haven't found a replenishing pool, have stepped in all the "puddles" I've found and have run out of souls to consume. After the consulate, which required a lot of Bless, I returned to Isbeile's laboratory to pick up the Source I didn't have room for earlier. I'd finished Secrets of the Dwarves earlier. Anyway, I am about to enter Klemm's mansion. I have 3 characters with 3 Source points and one with only 2. Am I missing something? Is it something stupid like a replenishing pool I've missed?

[Lethal Ghost]

You not missed it. You'll find it in Kemm's Mansionin the basement.

[Gregorovitch]

Until you find the fountain Lethal Ghost has alerted you to, there are IIRC three enourmous piles of dead magisters conviently located in the market square. I found them a more than adequate source of, er, source when added to various other incidental dead bodies and my own victims as I made my way through Arx before I found the fountain.

[Seether]

Ah, well, that's my next stop. @Gregorovich: I know, but I think I consumed them all. I've been using Source quite a bit and some of the demons also steal it.

[Seether]

Found it! Thanks.

[Vorp]

There is a giant pool of source on the Nameless Isle inside the academy too.

[Seether]

@Lord Jaraxxus: Yeah, but that's not really a pool you can keep hitting during Act 3. You're nearly done with Act 3 when you find it. Although I was nearly done with Act 4 before I located the pool in Kremm's mansion, it might be available for much of Act 4. I realize it's there all along, and the reason I say "might" is you'd have to be strong enough to win the fight to get to the mansion to use it.

[Ka'shurio]

Use the Bedrolls regenerate source points mod.

[Revolucas]

Originally posted by Seether:

@Lord Jaraxxus: Yeah, but that's not really a pool you can keep hitting during Act 3. You're nearly done with Act 3 when you find it. Although I was nearly done with Act 4 before I located the pool in Kremm's mansion, it might be available for much of Act 4. I realize it's there all along, and the reason I say "might" is you'd have to be strong enough to win the fight to get to the mansion to use it.

Depends. You can go directly to the academy via the secret entrance as soon as you reach the act.


Also what fight to get inside mansion? I just walked there and go to the garden. The statues in the basement are easy because they die from source vampirism.

[Seether]

I don't use any mods. @Alundiao: Oh, I didn't know that. In any event, never had a Source deficit in Act 3.

My Source deficit in Act 4 was very short-lived. As Lethal Ghost indicated, I was about to find it.

@Alundiao: It probably has to do with my play through. There were two packs of Level 20 demons in my Act 4 out for revenge because I'd killed the Advocate in Act 3. One pack of four was in the schoolyard. The other pack of four was at the bridges on the way to the Consulate. I didn't have to beat all four. I discovered that focusing on one and seriously hurting it would cause the pack to break off. If you divided fire, well, the pack was dangerous. For Klemm's Mansion itself? I found Karon too tough when I discovered him and his four minions. I finished the Sewers and doubled back for him after I went up a level (or two?). I discovered the Paladins had mistakenly freed him. I could still summon him, but he didn't have his minions. Made Karon's fight easy as he had no help, and my party was a level or so higher than before. Turns out his minions weren't gone forever, though. Found the four of them in the square outside Klemm's Mansion. That's a tough fight if you bypassed Karon early (say at level 18) and then maybe run into those guys outside the mansion. It was easy for my guys, but we were level 20 and well equipped by the time we headed to the mansion.

[Bastila Shan]

Originally posted by Lethal Ghost:

You not missed it. You'll find it in Kemm's Mansionin the basement.

It’s not in his basement it’s in his vault - in the garden where you find arhu

[Seether]

You know, that makes me wonder about Karon's minions outside Kemm's Mansion. I had returned to Karon's summoning site and defeated him there (without his buddies). When I ran into his buddies outside Kemm's Mansion, the body of Karon as a boy was also there. If I hadn't defeated him at the summoning site, it makes me think he might have been there with his buddies and we'd have the whole fight...just not in the same compact space it was originally intended to be.

Has anyone fought Karon with his minions outside Kemm's Mansion? Anyway, like I said...if you got to the Sewers and bypassed him early, it sets up a tough fight just outside Kemm's Mansion (doubly so if Karon is actually present and accounted for).

[Seether]

@HoboSlayer: Yes, but we can forgive mixing basement with vault. The vault seems like a basement, anyway. I realize there's an actual basement in the kitchen that is a little decoy. The replenishing Source Pool is not quite as convenient to get to as the previous ones given that it is a level down, a walk, and another level down, but it will do.

[FDru]

Originally posted by Coffee is life:

Can someone please pin point where exactly is this source fountain in act 4?

Bring the painting from the trolls/kids under Arx to the pond in the garden behind Kemm's mansion, pull a lever nearby to drain the water and enter. Then I think you need spirit sight to reveal the ghost of the painting in the back of that vault, and you place it there to reveal another secret room. Go down the hatch in there to find another chamber with an altar where you place the "Responsibility" painting on top to open yet another secret room where the fountain is at.

[bullse]

If you killing stuff, you should not be "running out of source," especially with source vampirism, but yeah, Arx has a place that has a source 'bottle' like in Act 2/3.

[FDru]

Originally posted by bullse:

If you killing stuff, you should not be "running out of source," especially with source vampirism, but yeah, Arx has a place that has a source 'bottle' like in Act 2/3.

I was done with 90% of Arx before I discovered I could use source vampirism on any corpse.

It should be noted that doing so destroys any spirit attached to the corpse though, for anyone who wants to leave them around.