duel weilding vs 2 hander ?

[Nemi]

so im playing a warrior but im wondering would people say 2 one handed weapons or a 2 handed weapon ?

[Fluff]

2H will give you more dmg

DW will give you a bit more dodge (there are dodge pots and spells though)

If you go Nercomancy for a lifesteal - then more dmg you have - better for you. And you want to go Necromancy with any melee char. That doesn't mean DW is unplayable, it's just a bit worse choice if you calculate each point.

[Fonglet]

DW daggers, highest damage for the first 75% of the game.
2H weapons, highest damage end game.
DW swords maces etc, lowest damage.

You shouldn't be putting any points into dual wield at all until you have maxed warfare if you are building a pure dps build because warfare gives you the highest damage scaling by far.

[Cameron Hall]

The only viable dual wield setup, at least if you want to get the most bang for your buck, is dual daggers, and that's obviously via combining it with Scoundrel. Any other dual wield combo would need to go into Warfare, which means you have access to Enrage, in which case you might as well just use a 2H for the crit damage bonus.

The only benefit that DW has over 2H is that you get more overall 'bonus' stats due to each item having its own stats, and you have access to the dodging talent.

Also, it's easier to find one good 2H than two good 1H weapons - and unless both 1H weapons are at the same tier as the 2H, you're always going to be behind the 2H in damage by default.

I made threads about it back during early EA and the only change they ever made to the situation was turning dual wield's crit chance into dodge chance, and that was because daggers were the only used dual wield, and they auto-crit via backstab.

[Ghost]

big ass hammer or axe is the way to go

[Rogue]

I wondered the same thing when I started playing, I was using 2h and had Beast with two 1h and I'd have sworn he was doing more then me every swing despite what the DPS was saying. In the end I just stuck with it but truth be told I personally like dual wielding better. Just feels stronger to me and the dodge chance is pretty nice. Don't get me wrong I know 2h does some sweet dmg, still doing it, but I am just having super ♥♥♥♥♥♥ luck finding 2h weapons besides tons of spears.

[Fluff]

Originally posted by Rogue:

I wondered the same thing when I started playing, I was using 2h and had Beast with two 1h and I'd have sworn he was doing more then me every swing despite what the DPS was saying. In the end I just stuck with it but truth be told I personally like dual wielding better. Just feels stronger to me and the dodge chance is pretty nice. Don't get me wrong I know 2h does some sweet dmg, still doing it, but I am just having super ♥♥♥♥♥♥ luck finding 2h weapons besides tons of spears.

Feeling is nice, and DW hit animation is sweety, but facts are facts - 2H has more dmg. Finished the game trying every class and spells in the end - 2H wins in terms of dmg versus DW.

The weakest is a summoner school if anyone wonders. Never go only summoning,

[Czernobog wants to Rage]

Why does Warfare scale better than 2H investment?

It looks like a point of Warfare gives +5% physical while a point of 2H gives +5% physical AND greater crit.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by maniaC_C:

Originally posted by Rogue:

I wondered the same thing when I started playing, I was using 2h and had Beast with two 1h and I'd have sworn he was doing more then me every swing despite what the DPS was saying. In the end I just stuck with it but truth be told I personally like dual wielding better. Just feels stronger to me and the dodge chance is pretty nice. Don't get me wrong I know 2h does some sweet dmg, still doing it, but I am just having super ♥♥♥♥♥♥ luck finding 2h weapons besides tons of spears.

Feeling is nice, and DW hit animation is sweety, but facts are facts - 2H has more dmg. Finished the game trying every class and spells in the end - 2H wins in terms of dmg versus DW.

The weakest is a summoner school if anyone wonders. Never go only summoning,

Never said it was better, even went out of my way to say 'personally'

[Tinsoldier]

Originally posted by Spawn More Overlords:

Why does Warfare scale better than 2H investment?

It looks like a point of Warfare gives +5% physical while a point of 2H gives +5% physical AND greater crit.

There was a whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it in another thread. Long story short, it's not an equivalent 5%. Points in classes are multiplicative and the weapon skills are additive. If you have 10 points to invest, put them into warfare first before 2h, it'll be better damage, I promise.

[Fonglet]

Originally posted by Spawn More Overlords:

Why does Warfare scale better than 2H investment?

It looks like a point of Warfare gives +5% physical while a point of 2H gives +5% physical AND greater crit.

Warfare scales multiplicatively while all the other bonuses scale additively so its better than all the other abilities, with the exception being 2H where they will both add roughly the same amount of damage (warfare still slightly better), but warfare will give more consistent instead of spikey.

Two handed is the second best stat which is why it scales out better in the end game, but 2H is A LOT weaker in the early game than dual daggers until you max out warfare.

[Czernobog wants to Rage]

Originally posted by Tinsoldier:

Originally posted by Spawn More Overlords:

Why does Warfare scale better than 2H investment?

It looks like a point of Warfare gives +5% physical while a point of 2H gives +5% physical AND greater crit.

There was a whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it in another thread. Long story short, it's not an equivalent 5%. Points in classes are multiplicative and the weapon skills are additive. If you have 10 points to invest, put them into warfare first before 2h, it'll be better damage, I promise.

Thanks for the heads up. I've found my 2Her guy lagging behind my crossbowman so I'll go to the Lady Vengance and try a respec.

[Fonglet]

Originally posted by Spawn More Overlords:

Originally posted by Tinsoldier:

There was a whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it in another thread. Long story short, it's not an equivalent 5%. Points in classes are multiplicative and the weapon skills are additive. If you have 10 points to invest, put them into warfare first before 2h, it'll be better damage, I promise.

Thanks for the heads up. I've found my 2Her guy lagging behind my crossbowman so I'll go to the Lady Vengance and try a respec.

Even your crossbowman should be maxing warfare over ranged and huntsman only putting the min points in to get the skills.

[Ghost]

that's messed up about warfare, makes the weapon skills pretty crap like in the first game

[Atma]

The weapon skills being crap has nothing to do w/ Warfare, tbh. The weapon skills are crap because Larian decided to make them additive bonuses.

As such, they are basically just "icing on the cake" after you have maxed out everything else you want to take.

[DaPhuuLz]

i like 2H. it feels good when you hit and see a big chunk of bar goes off.