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Hi Vicious - I don't think anyone accused you of not reading! Also, I'm not sure Gratiana's all that important - though you might be a bit annoyed that you didn't get to meet her.
It's true - her soul jar describes her as evil - gives good probable cause to destroy it. But if her evil soul is in a jar - is the Gratiana standing by the pool of Amadia evil? Buggered if I know!!
I think the point the designer was making with the quest is passing judgment on her is going to be tough and could be taken from multiple perspectives. One viable perspective is that, now, as the old gods are gone and on the wane and the new godwoken find their feet - they are the ones who get to pass judgement. It's what gods do! Some of them do it deeply & philosophically, others - well..can be flippant and / or malicious. All depends on the god!
Good to see someone else enjoying the storylines as much as I am!
And im not the best angel on the block.
Never knew.
Same here, I dropped the jar without knowing she (and the others) existed somewhere on the island, since breaking the jars and releasing their souls seemed like the most generous approach. Not to mention that those three others and Trompdoy actually thank you for freeing their souls. And there is another character who tasks you to free his soul from his jar, so... yeah. I was surprised when this Gratiana lady chose to cling to life even after all these years.
The soul jar tells you how evil she was while she was living. Three undead necromancers tell you how 'treacherous and deceitful' she was, that she could 'lie better than any'. I didn't see any 'repenting' in her becoming a priest of Amadia, because it virtually does nothing but ease her own conscience of guilt... if it ever existed in the first place. And even if she actually did regret her doings it doesn't make anything even in my point of view. AND with all that aggressive attitude...
I'm on my second playthrough, and this time I gave the jar back to her. Then spat at her feet (in the dialogue option).
That's like voting for trump then complaining.
No. But some have difficulty with humor. Often autists, with their robotic shelden cooper personalities and their compulsive need to take everything literally.
And it's hardly very painful "redemption" or demands much sacrifices, not even human(undead) decency given the arrogance she shows when she drops the mask.
It's a weird case of an rpg wanna create a moralic dilemma but i just can't see any.
So, from a pure RP point of view i would never consider NOT to kill her. She deserves it. Much more then the necromancers. The "moralic" reasoning and that 4th post is therefore imho rather silly. And the following accusation also.
However ... from a story and gameplay pov, could we go back to the topic question? Do i miss anything... amazing in act2+ if shes dead?
Yes, looking things up before decisions in RPGs is lame, but what can one do.....
PS: It is indeed my single biggest problem with Dos2... It can't handle the complexity of it's own quests. I got to her after doing almost everything including seeing her past. and yet "i" act in this quest as if i'd know absolutely nothing. There is almost nothing of what i do in the quest, accounted for in the solution. That happens A LOT. As if parts of quests had been made by different persons.
Now you're a true old testament / fire and brimstone kinda Godwoken!
I have to wonder though...what that would mean for my main character Ifan - a fallen of the divine order and now a commiter of attrocites and killer for hire. From an RP perspective I reasoned he had to let her live - if only because he needs to believe there's a redemption for himself ( and he wasn't in the divine order anywhere near as long as Gratiana's been doing her pious bit!)
(And no...it doesn't matter very much if you do kill her off) :)
Also i wonder if the thousands Gratiana has apparently killed for fun would forgive her because she stood at a pond for a some time... I don't think they would be as easy going as you.
ANd there is the issue about how she behaves as soon as she want something from you and it's not just OMMMMM anymore. How serious is she about that priest business? How much has she really changed. I love how if you put the jar back in you bag, she "prays" to the godess to give you "the wisdom" to do exactly as SHE wants....
Hard to say but first of all, Gratiana is not Braccus Rex and not directly responsible for all the death like Hitler...
Secondly, said community work has lasted a VERY long time. More than one thousand of year, I believe.
And because the people she harmed has nothing to do with any of the characters, it realy comes down to your personal sense of justice rather than universal morality now.