honour mode for a first timer?

[-Snoopi-]

What do you guys think about Honour mode for a first timer?

Due to all the positive reviews I went ahead and purchased it. I have never played any DOS games at all before so it will be my first time in the series.

But games these days are far too easy for me, I had to stop playing MEA last night because even on Insanity difficulty in MEA, I never felt threatened in-game at all, not even close to dying, like all games these days it became a walk in the park.

Hence another reason I was interested in DOS2 because of this so called 'Honour mode', sounds like it should definitely present the challenge I have been long yearning for in a game.

[-Snoopi-]

Are there zergs in this game?

[-Snoopi-]

Steam, can you guys plz disable us from backing up honour saves. I just done it and it actually works when you disable auto-sync to cloud. Lol

Now it is too tempting...

[aaronthuglife]

Originally posted by -Snoopi-:

Are there zergs in this game?

Yeahhh. If there isn't I'm sure there will be a mod for it at some point.. I'd love a Starcraft mod lol

[aaronthuglife]

We're going to see a huge variety of custom maps and mods because of how good their editor is. Someone's going to figure out how to import any models they want into it and we will be set

[Gwumpy Fwog]

Originally posted by Satan:

Honor mode is easy, it's kinda like juggling knives while riding a laser shark.

You'll encounter someone, fail a persuasion check because it choose the wrong character, rocks fall, you instantly die.

For example, there is a character that literally will instantly kill the group with lava if you try to approach them (without warning), fun on honor mode where it instantly deletes your game and you can't save scum.

theres plenty of warning, she (not gonna say her name) clearly says stay the ♥♥♥♥ away and is already blasting ♥♥♥♥ your way... ALICE ALLISON HOWEVER, always gets turn 1 and the fight autosaves on start and she WILL kill one person with bloody knuckler or whatever its called that does 80k dmg

[henrywiddas]

great thread this, and good luck to @Snoopi!

I'm currently about to start my third playthrough on Honour Mode, the first two runs ended up with untimely deaths at lvl 1 (those bugs on the boat at the start - i played dead and their health completely regenerated while i was still half dead) and lvl2 (those massive frogs in the cave in Fort Joy - wiped most of my party, i escaped went back and resurrected my two bros but without the help of the NPCs who were killed in first battle I was completely destroyed after not positioning my party members close enough to hit with ranged attacks) .

i've got addicted to this type of ironman gaming as it really adds to the role-play feel knowing there is potentially a "game over man game over" moment around every corner.

the downside is that it takes a lot of time to eventually learn the ropes and get things right and, as someone else mentioned on here, it may hamstring those trying to experiment with the mechanics - i hope to get round that by experimenting in the easy fights (if there are any!)

i've played this method with wasteland 2 and pillars of eternity, just jumping straight into the hardest difficulty and ironman (self-imposed with wasteland2), plus going in relatively blind. with wasteland 2 i min/maxed but not with Pillars and after 40+ deaths and restarts i eventually finished PoE after 800 hours or so. yes i am that sad.

li'm not min/maxing at the minute with DOS2, just using the cool origin characters.

the secret to this playstyle imho is to enjoy the deaths as weird as that may sound, the eventual loss of a 20+ hours save file can be in an absolutely epic battle, or it can be the biggest d'oh! moment of your life, but it's a gaming experience you will never forget :)

the other bit of advice i'd give is be ultra cautious, at least 95% of my deaths in this play method have been running into situations without thinking or as a result of over-confidence. if in any doubt, turn back and explore somewhere else

[aaronthuglife]

Originally posted by legion160:

Originally posted by Satan:

Honor mode is easy, it's kinda like juggling knives while riding a laser shark.

You'll encounter someone, fail a persuasion check because it choose the wrong character, rocks fall, you instantly die.

For example, there is a character that literally will instantly kill the group with lava if you try to approach them (without warning), fun on honor mode where it instantly deletes your game and you can't save scum.

theres plenty of warning, she (not gonna say her name) clearly says stay the ♥♥♥♥ away and is already blasting ♥♥♥♥ your way... ALICE ALLISON HOWEVER, always gets turn 1 and the fight autosaves on start and she WILL kill one person with bloody knuckler or whatever its called that does 80k dmg

The second time I fought Alice she didn't kill either of my characters but got really close. I was like 17 by then. I think there's something you're supposed to do to her to weaken her soul in advance.

[Cebertus]

Originally posted by aaronthuglife:

The second time I fought Alice she didn't kill either of my characters but got really close. I was like 17 by then. I think there's something you're supposed to do to her to weaken her soul in advance.

Fire Resistance Potion, its not like the game doesnt tell you that she might be all about fire :)

Most of those fights that onehit your group in the first round are extremly easy with the right potion, sadly thats all what crafting can do :(

[-Snoopi-]

Originally posted by henrywiddas:

great thread this, and good luck to @Snoopi!

I'm currently about to start my third playthrough on Honour Mode, the first two runs ended up with untimely deaths at lvl 1 (those bugs on the boat at the start - i played dead and their health completely regenerated while i was still half dead) and lvl2 (those massive frogs in the cave in Fort Joy - wiped most of my party, i escaped went back and resurrected my two bros but without the help of the NPCs who were killed in first battle I was completely destroyed after not positioning my party members close enough to hit with ranged attacks) .

i've got addicted to this type of ironman gaming as it really adds to the role-play feel knowing there is potentially a "game over man game over" moment around every corner.

the downside is that it takes a lot of time to eventually learn the ropes and get things right and, as someone else mentioned on here, it may hamstring those trying to experiment with the mechanics - i hope to get round that by experimenting in the easy fights (if there are any!)

i've played this method with wasteland 2 and pillars of eternity, just jumping straight into the hardest difficulty and ironman (self-imposed with wasteland2), plus going in relatively blind. with wasteland 2 i min/maxed but not with Pillars and after 40+ deaths and restarts i eventually finished PoE after 800 hours or so. yes i am that sad.

li'm not min/maxing at the minute with DOS2, just using the cool origin characters.

the secret to this playstyle imho is to enjoy the deaths as weird as that may sound, the eventual loss of a 20+ hours save file can be in an absolutely epic battle, or it can be the biggest d'oh! moment of your life, but it's a gaming experience you will never forget :)

the other bit of advice i'd give is be ultra cautious, at least 95% of my deaths in this play method have been running into situations without thinking or as a result of over-confidence. if in any doubt, turn back and explore somewhere else

Wow man, you must have alot of time on your hands! I'm jealous lol

Yeah, I would do it that way too but I wouldn't have the time. So at the moment I backedup my Honour save lolololol....

But I only do it once every few hrs or so. I died to those bloody massive alligators around Fort Joy beach. They are Lvl3 and my party is Lvl2. Second retry I beat them by the skin of my teeth, had to reseruct 3 of 4 of my party members. Finally a game that is actually challenging!

[Midnight]

Did honor mode with me and my mate on our first playthrough got to lvl 9 before encountering lvl 12 enemies that 1 shot us :D

[henrywiddas]

i'm married with kids and job so not much that time, i just did little and often and it took me 18 months to finish PoE. i expect to finish DOS2 in late 2019

[-Snoopi-]

Lol I had to restore my save file again. I was upto the part where you have to fight 4 or so lvl4 fire slugs in a dungeon in Fort Joy.

I did not realise that attacking them with fire will heal them lol. Really need to know everything about the game to play in Honour mode.

Is anyone else finding that they need alot of reserruction spells in these modes?

[Bijat]

i know of a place on nameless island where if u press a button the whole level get deathfog its the imp pocket universe / the place u get to buy using the gem and its a button called something like emergancy smth

[Midnight]

Not really you just need to be cautious i mean just run from most fights that your under level from and pay attension to diologue

[-Snoopi-]

Ok, really starting to get the hang of this now...
Killed all those fire slugs with ease this time round. And also just killed griff and his possy pretty easily.