Spear/Finesse builds

[Texonater]

What unique builds are there for Spear/Finesse users?

By what I can tell, the warfare skills I used on my 2H would also be used on my spear user. Is the main trade off just Finesse armor instead of strength armor, with longer range and less damage on the spear? Huntsman/Scoundral don't really add anything to spear users by what I can tell, that you couldn't allready use with a str 2h build.

[Sunshine]

Pretty much no difference, it was nice having the spear of braccus on my rogue before he got decent daggers at level 2-3. After that there was pretty much no value.

Its not that spears are ineffective, with high warfare and finesse they can do plenty of damage. The problem is they just dont excel at anything.

For the Hybrid Scoundrel/Warfare (if thats what you are interested in) I prefer dual wield daggers + High warfare because abilities like Whirlwind WILL crit behind your enemy.

[DarkFenix]

Spears are a very half-arsed addition to D:OS2, Larian really needed to give them their own skill tree to distinguish them, along with making one handed spears and possibly javelins too.

As it stands there's really no reason to take them, except as Alexei said above, as a stand-in for the 20 minutes it takes to acquire decent daggers.

[Vic]

Warfare increases damage of all physical damage, yes, but their skills scale with str.

Str armor has more phy armor than their finesse counterparts, is more useful for a melee fighter.

If yo go finesse you have the advantage of being able to use ranged weaponry or daggers if you find good ones.

In that case, maybe you can go poly, focusing on finesse and wits (for crits), con is not really that critical since you are not going to use shields anyway.

Dwarf warfare/poly/2H with geo ( not for damage, to slow enemies and use fortify and Oily carapace) and counter your lack of shield with spells that add armor, chameleon for avoidance and cc like medusa. Also recomend human undead. Not really a tank build or a particularly strong one, but you can use more variety of weapons.

[cuwepal]

the only dif is armor types if you want to hopen up finesse armor insead of str based. all of warfare skills will stack off your weapon so for spear it will scale with finesse. if you wanted to have a melee mage 2h staff builds work as well with warfare skills doing staff dmg and scales with int

[Sunshine]

Originally posted by Vic:

Warfare increases damage of all physical damage, yes, but their skills scale with str.

Warfare skills scale with the weapon you have equipped, if you are holding a spear (finesse) then a whirlwind (warfare) will do bonus damage based on your characters finesse, not strength

[Texonater]

The responses here on how the spear is dissapointing saddens me. So many great things could come from well inplemented spears... Yari/Naginata samurai, Hoplites, javelinmen, pikemen, halberdiers, etc...

[Dauntless]

Spears have a longer range, but they're rare. They also scale with finesse and dual wielding daggers deal better damage, so kinda pointless.

[Olaf 'Don' Scholz]

The long range combined with opportunist is actually really good!