*MAJOR SPOILERS* Original Sin 2 and Ego Draconis?

[d3mø]

So, I just finished OS2 (marvelous game, truly), but I'm confused by the ending and its place in the general Divinity lore.
As far as I understand, OS2 takes place somewhere between Lucian's "death" and Damian's return in the beginning of Ego Draconis. However, the two games seem to have different (and mutually exclusive) versions of what happened to him: in ED he was not killed, but imprisoned by Damian, and later freed by the Dragon Knight to return to Rivellon. In OS2, however, he faked his own death, and instead of being trapped by Damian, he was just sitting on a chair in a dungeon for years. One of the endings also has him returning to rule Rivellon as a (somewhat fake) Divine, but with only the slightest mention of Damian and no mention of the prison or the Dragon Knight at all.
So, am I failing to see a way all this can be logically tied into a single timeline? Or maybe one of the games should be considered non-canon?
Honestly, I am at a loss.

[Grubbs008]

The true ending is you giving up your source and Lucian becoming a "Fake" Divine but nobody knowing about it, Thus Divinity 2 Ego Draconis happens.

[d3mø]

Originally posted by Grubbs008:

The true ending is you giving up your source and Lucian becoming a "Fake" Divine but nobody knowing about it, Thus Divinity 2 Ego Draconis happens.

Yes, that's what I assume to be the canon ending, too. But what I don't understand is, where exactly does OS2 fit in the timeline? If I remember correctly, according to EG Lucian "died" after Beyond Divinity, when Damian returned to Rivellon. It was stated that OS2 is set 4 years after Beyond Divinity, so Damian should have been there to kill him the first time. So the only way I see this could somehow fit is if Lucian *died*, hid in the dungeon, came back to Rivellon and then *died* again by Damian's hand? But isn't that, like, a bit too much dying?

[Grubbs008]

His death was faked once or twice. And it takes place before D2 and BD and 1230 years after DSO1. And he could'nt truly die as long as his body and the Gods were in power. That's why in D2 he is just a dude with glowy eyes but can't do anything. Hence the easy capture.

[Nishilum]

Originally posted by Grubbs008:

The true ending is you giving up your source and Lucian becoming a "Fake" Divine but nobody knowing about it, Thus Divinity 2 Ego Draconis happens.

No the Dragon knight saga has been reconed officially by larian

[Nishilum]

Originally posted by zavier:

Originally posted by Grubbs008:

The true ending is you giving up your source and Lucian becoming a "Fake" Divine but nobody knowing about it, Thus Divinity 2 Ego Draconis happens.

No the Dragon knight saga has been reconed officially by larian

larian didn't original have a really planed out overarching plot in the early days and the original sin is really their first attempt to get some footing ill see if i can find the post on the forms and put it here

[Nishilum]

i Asked the same question about the timeline in a older thread and a ton of people told me and linked me

[Grubbs008]

I'd definetly play a new Dragon Knight saga if they made it. I loved that game.

[Nishilum]

Originally posted by Grubbs008:

I'd definetly play a new Dragon Knight saga if they made it. I loved that game.

yeah the game was pretty fun if clunky but i doubt we will see another one they might add it as a skill or class in a future game though

[Grubbs008]

Divinity of the Divine, Open world Dragon Knight Saga, 3rd person Skyrim like game, downfall of Damien. Out 2094

[shinros]

Zavier is right divinity 2 is pretty much not canon/has been retconned. Here is the topic on the main forums spoilers of course. I think Larian is estbalishing a proper time line with the original sin series.

http://larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=615405&page=1

[Nishilum]

Originally posted by shinros:

Zavier is right divinity 2 is pretty much not canon/has been retconned. Here is the topic on the main forums spoilers of course. I think Larian is estbalishing a proper time line with the original sin series.

http://larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=615405&page=1

thanks for providing the link couldn't find it for the life of me

[shinros]

Originally posted by zavier:

Originally posted by shinros:

Zavier is right divinity 2 is pretty much not canon/has been retconned. Here is the topic on the main forums spoilers of course. I think Larian is estbalishing a proper time line with the original sin series.

http://larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=615405&page=1

thanks for providing the link couldn't find it for the life of me

No problem mate since I was getting kinda confused by some of the events and the timeline.

[falcongtr]

I like how people claim that game is non canon based on thread without anyone related to Larian confirming so. "Divinity 2 is no longer canon it seems." - is conclusion of forum user not claim from devs. So unless two previous orators have other actually valid source that proves retcon, Divinity 2 is canon.

[Nishilum]

Originally posted by falcongtr:

I like how people claim that game is non canon based on thread without anyone related to Larian confirming so. "Divinity 2 is no longer canon it seems." - is conclusion of forum user not claim from devs. So unless two previous orators have other actually valid source that proves retcon, Divinity 2 is canon.

even if you look at it from a story stand point it would make no sense for divnity 2 to be canon how would luician be in the vault if hes supposed to trapped with yergna also there can be only one divine and divinity 2 theres no mention of another divine. and even if he he won and got rid of all source how would luician still have his divine powers in flames of vengence if he gave them up. But the biggest thing in this game is that it clearly states that luician was killed by damain and damain was killed by him not that a dragon knight(which was said to be an illusion created by damian in their fight which is the reason given in ecos dragoncis as to why they are hunting dragon knights and why people hate them) supposedly did it which if that didnt happen then and clearly its shown that nobody really knows who dragon knights are than the whole plot of divinity would make no sense because nobody would have a reason to hunt dragon knights.

[TheTrueCyprien]

Originally posted by zavier:

Originally posted by falcongtr:

I like how people claim that game is non canon based on thread without anyone related to Larian confirming so. "Divinity 2 is no longer canon it seems." - is conclusion of forum user not claim from devs. So unless two previous orators have other actually valid source that proves retcon, Divinity 2 is canon.

even if you look at it from a story stand point it would make no sense for divnity 2 to be canon how would luician be in the vault if hes supposed to trapped with yergna also there can be only one divine and divinity 2 theres no mention of another divine. and even if he he won and got rid of all source how would luician still have his divine powers in flames of vengence if he gave them up. But the biggest thing in this game is that it clearly states that luician was killed by damain and damain was killed by him not that a dragon knight(which was said to be an illusion created by damian in their fight which is the reason given in ecos dragoncis as to why they are hunting dragon knights and why people hate them) supposedly did it which if that didnt happen then and clearly its shown that nobody really knows who dragon knights are than the whole plot of divinity would make no sense because nobody would have a reason to hunt dragon knights.

Original Sin 2 takes place a few years after the first war against Damian. The "betrayal" of the dragon knights and their subsequent eradication happens during and after the second war against Damian. So it appears Lucian just "died" twice. That kinda cheapens his death, but that way the purge ending does work as canon. The game even serves as an explanation as to why the seven gods are nowhere mentioned in Divinity 2.

What does however not quite add up is how Damian was supposedly killed by deathfog vs being banished to Nemesis. Especially since Damian should've already returned by the time of this game. But maybe people just assumed he died in the fog like they did with Lucian and he is currently raising his army in hiding. Most of the endings do suggest that the Black Ring is still up to something.

As far as I know the last official source for the full canon timeline is the history section of the Original Sin Kickstarter which includes Divinity 2. The dates of Divine Divinity and the first war against Damian are still the same in the Original Sin 2 lore book. (and also mentioned in the game I think) Said book does omit the events of Beyond Divinity but seeing how it's supposed to be written by Cranley Huwbert it can be explained away by him not knowing about that, especially since it also states that Lucian is dead.