Good vs. Evil Origin Characters

[Syrax314]

Having a tough time coming up with a party composition that I can roleplay. I would really appreciate advice from others on the forum.

Looking for either:
- a good (heroic) or evil (villainous) team
- main character as a rogue or pyro mage


It's important, for me at least, that the main character's Origin tag is consistent with the morality I am trying to play. For example, I don't want to play Sebille for a Hero playthrough when her <Sebille> tag in conversations is so violent and murderous.

If anyone has any advice, I'm eager to hear it! Thanks.

[Syrax314]

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[Shoebsy]

What about your own custom characters?

[Soren]

I can vouch for Beast being a predominantly heroic character. The Red Prince can be seen as a villainous one (perhaps uncaring would be more accurate.) Fane is more the logical type. He could go either way. I haven't used the other origin characters.

[Gwumpy Fwog]

Originally posted by Nesdude:

I can vouch for Beast being a predominantly heroic character. The Red Prince can be seen as a villainous one (perhaps uncaring would be more accurate.) Fane is more the logical type. He could go either way. I haven't used the other origin characters.

Fane is bad soley on the fact he couldnt give 2 ♥♥♥♥♥ if you live or die because you are beneath him. Lohse is "good" however the demon in her beyond ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and is lore wise WAY stronger than her aka it could posses her at any given time he wanted to. Sebille is "good" but has a very bad way of going about it.

[Greywolf]

I think most characters are morally ambiguous to the point where they can swing either way, some moreso than others.

could go
,good: Ifan, Lohse, Beast, Sebille
,evil: Ifan, Red Prince, Fane, Sebille

I guess it all comes down to how you personally play the characters. Ifan can have a selfish streak killing and kidnapping for money or a more remorceful streak trying to make amends for the bad things he has done. Sebille could be a viscious killer who has given into her darker impulses or somebody driven by vengance but ulimately tries to do the right thing.

[MrFrengLitch]

Fane is rather evil. He sees humans as pets and he is emotionless towards everyone. Beast definitely heroic. He wants to save his people while staying humble. Sebille is a tough one. She sacrifice herself to do evil things to bring justice to evil men. She's like a "vigilante". The Red Prince is a tough one too, but I'd say he is evil. He is blinded by his promises and that makes him dangerous. Lohse is good but her mind is not hers. And I don't know much about Ifan, but he seems quite good. That's pretty much it.

[Gwumpy Fwog]

Originally posted by MrFrenglish:

Fane is rather evil. He sees humans as pets and he is emotionless towards everyone. Beast definitely heroic. He wants to save his people while staying humble. Sebille is a tough one. She sacrifice herself to do evil things to bring justice to evil men. She's like a "vigilante". The Red Prince is a tough one too, but I'd say he is evil. He is blinded by his promises and that makes him dangerous. Lohse is good but her mind is not hers. And I don't know much about Ifan, but he seems quite good. That's pretty much it.

Ifan is no saint, I mean his job meant working for Roost Anlon and that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ is insane, they are the very definition of merc, no job too dirty, no killing too bad. (hell all the lone wolves are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up)

[Dipnderps]

you may be better off rping with the term "anti-hero" in mind most of the origin characters have a "if it helps me to help you...sure" kind of mindset (as they should considering the end goal) adopting that type of mindset into an rp it realy easy as most dialog options have a "i can help for a price" option, beyond that, i believe you can have a full party of custom characters once you start getting ready to leave fort Joy (female lizard has swords for hire) and you can make them whatever ye want

[JackArmstrong]

They can play more-or-less however you want them to; most of my party ended up wearing the "Hero" tag, so they're like a gang of snarky but ultimately well-meaning jerks. I'm not sure if Fane has it, but he's also unfortunately very buggy (or at least was, the issues I encountered may have been patched) and spent a large part of the game being mute.

[Syrax314]

Thanks all for the thoughtful replies!

I have had the worst case of "restartitis" with this game. Worse than any other I have ever played.

I made myself a promise that if I haven't figured out which origin to play by the weekend, I'm just going to go the Custom Character route.

My current thoughts are as follows:

Ifan:
Could be built as a dark hero (Geralt from Witcher). He takes contracts to kill "monsters" but still has some sense of morality. Wouldn't attack a child for money, but no qualms with taking down a corrupt authority figure.
- Class Suggestion: Rogue, Ranger

Beast:
Agree with the other posters here - this guy is the closest thing to a hero. Not selfish, cruel, or needlessly violent. He wants to protect his people...
- Class Suggestion: Melee Fighter

Lohse:
Complex character. On the one hand, a truly decent and sympathetic person who loves children. On the other hand, she can become evil incarnate with her demon takes over. I've been tempted to play her as a good soul who either falls victim to the corruption of her demon, or fights desperately to protect who she is.
- Class Suggestion: Caster, Summoner

Fane:
Someone who's morality differs from ours. He has the same attitude about other races that we (regular humans) have about insects. We kill a bug without much thought or remorse. He feels the same about everyone else. I don't know if he is evil, per se. Just completely ambivalent about what happens to the "insects" around him.
- Class Suggestion: Caster, Rogue
- I think Fane's traits make him a great rogue, but his personality doesn't seem to match.
Given his aristocratic, scholarly nature, he seems more like to rely on spells and intelligence than on getting his hands directly dirty.

[MrFrengLitch]

I recommend Ifan as ranger. Beast as rogue. Lohse as knight and Fane as a caster.

This way you make full use of every characters starting bonuses.

But if you want to know how I play my Fane, I play him as a deathknight ;).

[Hariwulf]

Ifan have a strong morality. We lose attitude with evil or too blunt choices

[Myth]

having done the red prince questline...i dont see how you guys can come to the conclusion he is evil....

hes in love with himself sure...but i got the distinct feeling he was a good guy.

did you guys do all his talk dialogue between you and himself?

i dont see how wanting to return your people to their rightful place in the world as being bad....hell..on my game..he was talking about how he has to be a good father so that the red D's will behave

ive not actually seen any origin character that is pure evil....

if anything....they are mostly on the good side..only becoming evil if the character chooses evil decisions..

[Vaki Ova]

Think of alinments like this for each one. Ifan Chaotic netrual or netrual evil. Red price Lawful evil. Fane lawful evil or true netrual. Lhose netrual good when she has control. Beast and Sebile are both chaotic good.

[neutrino]

Originally posted by Nikkity:

Heroes and villains are all about perspective, one's hero is another's villain.

I know I'm quoting a three month old reply in this recently resurrected thread, but I have state that I have always found that oh-so-overused quip to be so trite. It's one of those politically correct things people say to feel good about themselves but in the end shows how shallow and myopic they really are.

So using a movie analogy, using the above logic, I guess we should decree Darth Vader or the new Darth Caedus a hero, right? From their "perspective," they are just serving their Sith Lord. Destroying populated planets, killing one's parent, and killing children (since they are a future threat) are heroic acts indeed. Go Team Sith!