Actual place in the timeline? (spoilers both for this and Ego draconis/divinity 2: directors cut)

[Ark_Zilong]

So, where is this game supposed to be set in the timeline?
at first I thought it was before Ego draconis/divinity 2, as nonhuman races where still around (and I believe the lore in divinity 2 or its expansion mentions all other races being basically extinct or in hiding, unless the directors cut changed that)
but there are tons plot elements in original sin 2 that make absolutely no sense as a prequel to ego draconis.
From EVERYTHING involving lucian (including him having non-damian son) to there being yet ANOTHER last dragon knight (a lizard this time)
the divine order, etc.
is this actually set afterwards and the plot of ego draconis is mostly ignorred or retconned?
or does it actually replace ego draconis in general?
or somehow set before it despite all the plot stuff?

[Stabbey]

Supposedly it's set about 46 years before Divinity 2, so there could absolutely still be dragon knights around.

At one point I was thinking the same thing as you were, that maybe this was supposed to take place after the events of Divinity 2, but unfortunately the date established for Lucian's death was 1133, which puts it roughly 20-ish years after Divine Divinity and well before Divinity 2.

I've reached the ending, although I haven't finished the final boss, and I've concluded that either Original Sin 2 OR Ego Draconis/Dragon Knight Saga are NON-CANON. There is no way to reconcile them both being canon.

So since DOS 2 is the most recent game. Divinity 2 is essentially no longer canon.

[Ark_Zilong]

it might be for the best
as for all its positives, dragon knight saga shat all over continuity horribly (just look at what they did to imps!)

[Stabbey]

But DOS 2 craps all over the character of Lucian, turning him into a scheming, egotistical, genocidal monster who bears no resemblance to his portrayal in the other games and works, so that's a pretty big negative as well.

Honestly I think I'd rather consider this game as non-canon in my mind instead of Divinity 2.

[raubrey]

Originally posted by Stabbey:

Honestly I think I'd rather consider this game as non-canon in my mind instead of Divinity 2.

Very much agreed.

[raubrey]

Originally posted by Stabbey:

But DOS 2 craps all over the character of Lucian, turning him into a scheming, egotistical, genocidal monster

Sorry for the double post, but this is the best line I've read about a game...in a long time.

I needed someone to articulate my angst on this and here it is!

[Serendipitous]

Think of this game as you would think of Dragon Ball. Meaning don't think further than current epsiode/game you are watching/playing. Because as soon as you start, you'll find tons of contradictions and inconsistencies. Just enjoy it for gameplay)

[raubrey]

Originally posted by carashi:

Think of this game as you would think of Dragon Ball. Meaning don't think further than current epsiode/game you are watching/playing. Because as soon as you start, you'll find tons of contradictions and inconsistencies. Just enjoy it for gameplay)

Aside from playing how I play and immerse accordingly ...it doesn't help that they use the same lore and books -- even The Prison Letter (which one could think is the result of Mind Maggots)-- from 15+ years ago, so really this is not much of a solution. Still, I do enjoy them ...obviously.

[Ark_Zilong]

honestly, I much prefer this one, in part due to me never liking lucian much
but mostly because this game actually aknowledge the other races of the game world (and does not turn imps into horribly designed discount goblins)

also, fun fact, I have not yet finished the game, I posted this just as I got to arxs
BUT, stuff regarding Lucian aparently being the actual main bad guy got spoiled to me due to ilfans dialog glitching out and refering to events I had yet to go through
that and I was already suspecting that might be the case from some stuff in the previous area.

[BitterHeals]

Originally posted by Stabbey:

Supposedly it's set about 46 years before Divinity 2, so there could absolutely still be dragon knights around.

At one point I was thinking the same thing as you were, that maybe this was supposed to take place after the events of Divinity 2, but unfortunately the date established for Lucian's death was 1133, which puts it roughly 20-ish years after Divine Divinity and well before Divinity 2.

I've reached the ending, although I haven't finished the final boss, and I've concluded that either Original Sin 2 OR Ego Draconis/Dragon Knight Saga are NON-CANON. There is no way to reconcile them both being canon.

So since DOS 2 is the most recent game. Divinity 2 is essentially no longer canon.

58 years before Divinity 2. https://steamcommunity.com/app/435150/discussions/0/133258092253865506/ Damian is running about getting things ready for the plot of Divinity 2. Both games are canon.

Spoiler: Lucian's not dead. 8 years after the conclusion of this one, Talana kills Lucian. 50 years later, Divinity 2. Lucian isn't exactly the "bad guy", either, he has noble intentions here. Just incredibly bad execution.

I don't know about Alexandar's canonicity, but nothing about the time makes it impossible for there to be dragon knights. Saheila mentions after this, there will be a race war, and in the Div2 dev journal they state an earlier build had Damian's demons pretty much obliterating every race but goblins, elves, and humans. Maybe it's a combo of those two.

[Serious Ludd]

Small Necro, but Imps going "tribal" in Divinity 2 isn't really that surprising. After the "loss" of technology show in Dragon Commander, one can assume Imps weren't able to be anymore competitive on the technology market.

If you considears goblinz having the technology to build some kind of flying machines ( the Red Hammer Tribe ones ), Imps might be able to recover one day.

Plus, Dragon Commander, setting the Imps as Engineer, was built AFTER Dragon Knight Saga.

[Von Faustien]

Originally posted by Thazgar:

Small Necro, but Imps going "tribal" in Divinity 2 isn't really that surprising. After the "loss" of technology show in Dragon Commander, one can assume Imps weren't able to be anymore competitive on the technology market.

If you considears goblinz having the technology to build some kind of flying machines ( the Red Hammer Tribe ones ), Imps might be able to recover one day.

Plus, Dragon Commander, setting the Imps as Engineer, was built AFTER Dragon Knight Saga.

Isn't dragon commander about ten thousand or so years before the other games? The imps lasted a long time after the loss of that tech

[zacharyb]

Originally posted by Thazgar:

Small Necro, but Imps going "tribal" in Divinity 2 isn't really that surprising. After the "loss" of technology show in Dragon Commander, one can assume Imps weren't able to be anymore competitive on the technology market.

If you considears goblinz having the technology to build some kind of flying machines ( the Red Hammer Tribe ones ), Imps might be able to recover one day.

Plus, Dragon Commander, setting the Imps as Engineer, was built AFTER Dragon Knight Saga.

Dragon Commander was based thousands of years before the first Divinity game, the events that happened then don't really matter.

http://divinity.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline

[Von Faustien]

Originally posted by zacharyb:

Originally posted by Thazgar:

Small Necro, but Imps going "tribal" in Divinity 2 isn't really that surprising. After the "loss" of technology show in Dragon Commander, one can assume Imps weren't able to be anymore competitive on the technology market.

If you considears goblinz having the technology to build some kind of flying machines ( the Red Hammer Tribe ones ), Imps might be able to recover one day.

Plus, Dragon Commander, setting the Imps as Engineer, was built AFTER Dragon Knight Saga.

Dragon Commander was based thousands of years before the first Divinity game, the events that happened then don't really matter.

http://divinity.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline

It's basically a playable version of the stock fantasy/scifi historic fallen super advance empire that vanished for no explained reason and exists to provide mcguffins and wierd ♥♥♥♥ super advance ♥♥♥♥ to the setting for normal empires without braking the midevil style setting.