Ok VR people. Let's talk.

[TheFireDragon]

I see a lot of y'all are disapointed. I do not understand why. The DLC is free ! They made a collaboration, for us to enjoy, for free, what do you want.

Feedback is appreciated, but not "Oh WOw It'S sO bAd OH My GoD". They put a lot of effort into it, it's not easy to code !

It's just a plus for people who have VR really. You are complaining, but tell yourself that you have VR, unlike most of us.

Now let's talk about the expansion itself : What were you expecting seriously ? Did you even think about how hard it would be to reproduce the whole game in VR ! You just don't get up and say "Hey, let's make the game in VR" and then boom, done. And think about this : How yould you use the jetpack ? how would you use the interface ?

VR playgrounds, from what I've seen, is just to have fun and relax in the wonderful world of Slime Rancher ! No need to worry about your farm, just enjoy the view... And you can boop slimes ! And it's all new territory ! Isn't that so ccol ??

So now, take some time to think about this. And if you're still not happy, well send me your VR stuff, at least I'll enjoy it.
~Have a great day ^^

[Angel Bacon]

There are a lot of unused buttons for the jetpack, and all they would have to do is let us load our farm instead of the playground. Now the only issue I can see here (having played it) is that they haven't figured out locomotion or menus yet and they don't have water in the game. But once they have all of that, I don't see why they couldn't do it with just a little bit more work/bug testing and make this something great. That is, if it's on the same engine. Which I don't see why it wouldn't be, the thing was only 200MB I don't see them making an entirely new engine and fitting it into such a small package.

It was fun for what it was, but I would be dissapointed if they didn't build onto this and let us play the whole game like this. It's just a little bit more work. I have secretely wanted this for like a year, ever since I got my VR headset. so them doing that would be amazing

TL;DR My issue is that the groundwork for something amazing is already here, they just have to let us load our farm instead of the playgrounds map and figure out the menus.

[Onii]

Honestly I put way too much time trying to come up with a good response, but I'll summarize my thoughts:
VR "demos" like this set a bad example for other companies, and the more shallow vr games come out, the more likely AAA companies are going to do the same. VR is not as hard as most people think, as VorpX demonstrates, it just takes a bit of tweaking to get the 3D aspect to work, the only thing that needs development is the touch controls. I'll be disapointed if this playground is just the end to slime ranchers VR development, I hope that eventually we will get a version of slimerancher VR that is able to follow the game, not just stand aside and look cool.

[The Maddog]

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

I see a lot of y'all are disapointed. I do not understand why. The DLC is free ! They made a collaboration, for us to enjoy, for free, what do you want.

Yes..the DLC is free..... to people who own the base game.

Is it free to people who do not own the base game and bought the game expecting to play the game in VR? No. Absoultely not. I already owned the base game and I got what I paid for (or at least my kids did as I never played the pancake version) but with the DLC I thought I'd give it go. Looked like a fun game to play in VR....except there isnt any game to play.

You do understand people with VR headsets may be buying this game expecting to play it in VR right? YEs the store page is quite clear on what it is but anyone who's been playing VR games for a while knows a lot of desktop games have gotten VR patches / updates over the last couple of years and it;s been the full game ported to VR.

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

Feedback is appreciated, but not "Oh WOw It'S sO bAd OH My GoD". They put a lot of effort into it, it's not easy to code !

You're white knighting here and kinda wrong here. No one said it's easy to code but the game is made with Unity which specifically has the tools to port it with ease to VR. The actual amount of work needed to port the whole game to VR was minimal at best. The unity engine itself would have done most of the work.

Also, as I've said, developers of numerous other games (big and small developers) have ported the full game with ease. Just a few examples of titles would be...Windlands, Payday 2, The Forrest, Zaccaria Pinball, Asetto Corsa, Subnatica, Hellblade etc etc

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

It's just a plus for people who have VR really. You are complaining, but tell yourself that you have VR, unlike most of us.

This is just silly. Your whole argument is "consider yourself lucky because you have something I dont"?

Explain to me what the point of having a VR headset is if I cant enjoy a game in VR? It's like buying a blu ray player but only being able to watch the trailers for movies.

You're not offering a counter argument here.

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

Now let's talk about the expansion itself : What were you expecting seriously ?

The game in VR. This is not the game in VR. This is just a couple of areas to wander around for a few minuites.

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

Did you even think about how hard it would be to reproduce the whole game in VR ! You just don't get up and say "Hey, let's make the game in VR" and then boom, done. And think about this : How yould you use the jetpack ? how would you use the interface ?

You dont "reproduce or remake" the game in VR. The game is already made in unity and all the assests already exist. It's not hard to do with the Unity engine.

https://unity3d.com/learn/tutorials/topics/virtual-reality/deploying-your-vr-project

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

VR playgrounds, from what I've seen, is just to have fun and relax in the wonderful world of Slime Rancher ! No need to worry about your farm, just enjoy the view... And you can boop slimes ! And it's all new territory ! Isn't that so ccol ??

You really dont have much of a clue about this do you? you're litterally commenting on something you have no first hand experiance of.

This is a 5 min experiance at best. If you're someone who gets off just sitting and looking at something for hours and hours on end then good for you. Yes it looks nice but so do all the actual VR games I have. I'd much rather have something to do than something look at.

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

So now, take some time to think about this. And if you're still not happy, well send me your VR stuff, at least I'll enjoy it.
~Have a great day ^^

Now you're just being condecending. People didnt spend money on a VR headset just so so they could enjoy a 5 min experiance "looking at stuff" and they're most certainly not going to send them to people posting ridiculous unfounded comments on Steam.
I and everyone else not overly happy with this DLC just want a VR game, not useless little demos we cant do anything in.

If the dev wants to re-bundle the game and sell it as a seperate VR edition then so be it. I'm sure people would buy it...but this offering serves no purpose to anyone and is pointless. It;s not a game, it;s not a sandbox. You just walk around a couple of small areas and thats it.



But...since you seem to think you know better, I suggest you go throw down on a VR headset, spend a few months exploring and comparing content from other developers and THEN and only then coming back to say something here!

Till then, and I say this in the politest way I can, your opinion doesnt mean much because you really dont know what you are talking about.

[Onii]

Originally posted by The Maddog:

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

I see a lot of y'all are disapointed. I do not understand why. The DLC is free ! They made a collaboration, for us to enjoy, for free, what do you want.

Yes..the DLC is free..... to people who own the base game.

Is it free to people who do not own the base game and bought the game expecting to play the game in VR? No. Absoultely not. I already owned the base game and I got what I paid for (or at least my kids did as I never played the pancake version) but with the DLC I thought I'd give it go. Looked like a fun game to play in VR....except there isnt any game to play.

You do understand people with VR headsets may be buying this game expecting to play it in VR right? YEs the store page is quite clear on what it is but anyone who's been playing VR games for a while knows a lot of desktop games have gotten VR patches / updates over the last couple of years and it;s been the full game ported to VR.

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

Feedback is appreciated, but not "Oh WOw It'S sO bAd OH My GoD". They put a lot of effort into it, it's not easy to code !

You're white knighting here and kinda wrong here. No one said it's easy to code but the game is made with Unity which specifically has the tools to port it with ease to VR. The actual amount of work needed to port the whole game to VR was minimal at best. The unity engine itself would have done most of the work.

Also, as I've said, developers of numerous other games (big and small developers) have ported the full game with ease. Just a few examples of titles would be...Windlands, Payday 2, The Forrest, Zaccaria Pinball, Asetto Corsa, Subnatica, Hellblade etc etc

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

It's just a plus for people who have VR really. You are complaining, but tell yourself that you have VR, unlike most of us.

This is just silly. Your whole argument is "consider yourself lucky because you have something I dont"?

Explain to me what the point of having a VR headset is if I cant enjoy a game in VR? It's like buying a blu ray player but only being able to watch the trailers for movies.

You're not offering a counter argument here.

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

Now let's talk about the expansion itself : What were you expecting seriously ?

The game in VR. This is not the game in VR. This is just a couple of areas to wander around for a few minuites.

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

Did you even think about how hard it would be to reproduce the whole game in VR ! You just don't get up and say "Hey, let's make the game in VR" and then boom, done. And think about this : How yould you use the jetpack ? how would you use the interface ?

You dont "reproduce or remake" the game in VR. The game is already made in unity and all the assests already exist. It's not hard to do with the Unity engine.

https://unity3d.com/learn/tutorials/topics/virtual-reality/deploying-your-vr-project

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

VR playgrounds, from what I've seen, is just to have fun and relax in the wonderful world of Slime Rancher ! No need to worry about your farm, just enjoy the view... And you can boop slimes ! And it's all new territory ! Isn't that so ccol ??

You really dont have much of a clue about this do you? you're litterally commenting on something you have no first hand experiance of.

This is a 5 min experiance at best. If you're someone who gets off just sitting and looking at something for hours and hours on end then good for you. Yes it looks nice but so do all the actual VR games I have. I'd much rather have something to do than something look at.

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

So now, take some time to think about this. And if you're still not happy, well send me your VR stuff, at least I'll enjoy it.
~Have a great day ^^

Now you're just being condecending. People didnt spend money on a VR headset just so so they could enjoy a 5 min experiance "looking at stuff" and they're most certainly not going to send them to people posting ridiculous unfounded comments on Steam.
I and everyone else not overly happy with this DLC just want a VR game, not useless little demos we cant do anything in.

If the dev wants to re-bundle the game and sell it as a seperate VR edition then so be it. I'm sure people would buy it...but this offering serves no purpose to anyone and is pointless. It;s not a game, it;s not a sandbox. You just walk around a couple of small areas and thats it.



But...since you seem to think you know better, I suggest you go throw down on a VR headset, spend a few months exploring and comparing content from other developers and THEN and only then coming back to say something here!

Till then, and I say this in the politest way I can, your opinion doesnt mean much because you really dont know what you are talking about.

I agree with you completely, thanks for taking the time to write this. I wanted to go on a big rant, but honestly I can't be bothered to write something that will most likely not matter to anyone outside of this 3-4 person forumn

[TheFireDragon]

Ooooh I think I understood.

Originally posted by The Maddog:

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

Now let's talk about the expansion itself : What were you expecting seriously ?

The game in VR. This is not the game in VR. This is just a couple of areas to wander around for a few minuites.

I think you didn't read the title. It's literally "VR playgrounds." "PLAYGROUNDS" ! It's been said a long time ago that there will only be three new alternative zones, and that it wouldn't be the base game. Did you just see "Slime Rancher : VR" and stopped reading there ? And got all hyped for something you don't even know what you're gonna get ?

Originally posted by The Maddog:

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

It's just a plus for people who have VR really. You are complaining, but tell yourself that you have VR, unlike most of us.

This is just silly. Your whole argument is "consider yourself lucky because you have something I dont"?

Explain to me what the point of having a VR headset is if I cant enjoy a game in VR? It's like buying a blu ray player but only being able to watch the trailers for movies.

You're not offering a counter argument here.

I am. Have you seen the "It's just a plus" ? If you have a VR headset, you must have already played other games. If you got VR only for Slime Rancher... Of course you'll be disappointed. That's why you search before buying, again. Don't tell me you want to get rid of your VR stuff just because of that ? It's like getting a Blu Ray player, but there is only one movie you can't watch.

Originally posted by The Maddog:

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

VR playgrounds, from what I've seen, is just to have fun and relax in the wonderful world of Slime Rancher ! No need to worry about your farm, just enjoy the view... And you can boop slimes ! And it's all new territory ! Isn't that so ccol ??

You really dont have much of a clue about this do you? you're litterally commenting on something you have no first hand experiance of.

Of course I don't ! But I read what people think, I watched YouTube Videos, so I'm not completely ignorant. I would enjoy the playgrounds sometimes, just relaxing a bit, playing and experimenting, have fun ! Doesn't seem that hard, does it ?

Originally posted by The Maddog:

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

So now, take some time to think about this. And if you're still not happy, well send me your VR stuff, at least I'll enjoy it.
~Have a great day ^^

Now you're just being condecending. People didnt spend money on a VR headset just so so they could enjoy a 5 min experiance "looking at stuff" and they're most certainly not going to send them to people posting ridiculous unfounded comments on Steam.
I and everyone else not overly happy with this DLC just want a VR game, not useless little demos we cant do anything in.

1) Hell yeah I am
2) No they didn't, because from what I see, it's not the only VR game that exists in the world, but again, I don't know what I'm talking about since I don't have VR.
3) Well I don't see why they would send their stuff to "ridiculous unfounded comments" too... Thankfully mine is not like that !
4) Well it's fun no ? Because it's not useless, and you can do stuff in it. I'm sure people out there are super happy with the playgrounds, and there are definitely things to do. Not imposed of course, you do whatever you want. "Playground".

Originally posted by The Maddog:

But...since you seem to think you know better, I suggest you go throw down on a VR headset, spend a few months exploring and comparing content from other developers and THEN and only then coming back to say something here!

Thanks, but I saw a lot of videos on YouTube. I quite know what's going on here and there. I don't need a VR headset, even if I could afford it.

And now, with everything said,

Originally posted by The Maddog:

your opinion doesnt mean much because you really dont know what you are talking about.

I turn the compliment back to you. And I say this in the politest way I can. :)

[TheFireDragon]

And for everyone, if they didn't make the whole game in VR, they must have a good reason. They know what they're doing at Monomi Park !

[Onii]

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

And for everyone, if they didn't make the whole game in VR, they must have a good reason. They know what they're doing at Monomi Park !

I doubt it, it's most likely because they didn't want to pay for something that has a chance of completely failing. Its just another example of a developer not knowing what to do with VR. I'm sure that as time goes on, developers and publishers will realize that VR has a sizable and very fanatic player-base, and most of them are just starved for "the one" experience that they just absoluetely love. The more full games come out for VR, the more people will get it. Having a crappy demo doesn't convince someone to put 800+ dollars into a headset, but just might barely convince someone who already has one.

[Beige]

Just saying the free VR dlc could just be a tech demo of stuff to come. Kind of like a beta test to see if people whoild interested and if they'll provide feedback. Even if they're not doing that they may have laid some ground work for some modders and hopefully they can get single player on VR, it's a slight disappointment because I thought there would be a bit more things to do but it's a nice gesture. I got this game because it was cute hopefully the devs will work on expanding it so we can experience even more cute in the main game in vr. Also just saying if a game that was orignally flatscreen becomes VR and that's what makes you want that game you're shopping for games wrong. VR should be the bonus not the deciding factor.

[TheFireDragon]

Originally posted by Jay11800:

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

And for everyone, if they didn't make the whole game in VR, they must have a good reason. They know what they're doing at Monomi Park !

I doubt it, it's most likely because they didn't want to pay for something that has a chance of completely failing.

=>Good reason

[TheFireDragon]

Originally posted by BeigeAnimal:

Also just saying if a game that was orignally flatscreen becomes VR and that's what makes you want that game you're shopping for games wrong. VR should be the bonus not the deciding factor.

Exactly !

[Onii]

Originally posted by TheFireDragon:

Originally posted by BeigeAnimal:

Also just saying if a game that was orignally flatscreen becomes VR and that's what makes you want that game you're shopping for games wrong. VR should be the bonus not the deciding factor.

Exactly !

yes, If I take a game like minecraft, a game I easily have 800+ hours with. I just found out last month there is a much better VR mod called vivecraft. This alone made me want to play minecraft a whole lot more, and I went back to loving playing minecraft. Same thing with skyrim, the new perspective of VR expanded on a game I already liked, and made me love it all over again. I want the games I enjoy to have a VR mode so I can see the characters and worlds I spend hundreds of hours looking at. I won't buy a game just because it got a new VR mode, but if it a good game, and has lots of good reviews, and all the VR users say that it is a good port, then sure I'll 100% get a game for its VR addon. I bought skyrim for this reason (also because I love skyrim).

[Menzue]

I was mostly dissapointed with the lack of content. each playground was basically the size of a ranch expansion and didnt really have anything worth noting. Yeah, relax at the pond and all that, Now what. I like slime rancher because it doesnt really care if you go out of bounds or jump over walls. With this, there was a nice thick invisable wall locking you into everything. I couldnt find a way to jump in the playgrounds, so I started Slime-Stacking to explore. Except I couldnt because I ran into an invisable wall. Then another, and another, and another. Your hands have no collision with slimes, so you can boop them, but they will absorb your hand.
I played for about 10 minutes before I did everything there was to do. I'm dissapointed because they hyped it up to be "A fun, new way to experience the far far range!" What we got were a couple of tiny islands in the middle of the slime ocean, on the far far range.

Yea, we didnt pay for it, so? We can still be unhappy with something if it was free, we were excited for it and it flopped.

"if a game that was orignally flatscreen becomes VR and that's what makes you want that game you're shopping for games wrong." Wtf? You're saying its wrong to want a game because it came to VR? That's absurd to say, considering many have done exactly that and not been dissapointed, including me.
I feel like this needs to be reiterated : You really dont have much of a clue about this do you?
Yea yea yea, you watched videos about it. I watched videos on smithing, that doesnt make me a blacksmith. VR games often get churned out for a quick profit by developers. Its nice when you know a game is good, and it gets announced to be coming to VR.
This is not a game. This is an experience. You know, those free, quick to make games that last 5 - 10 minutes? That's what this is. It's why were complaining.

[purplecharmanderz]

Originally posted by Menzue:

I was mostly dissapointed with the lack of content. each playground was basically the size of a ranch expansion and didnt really have anything worth noting. Yeah, relax at the pond and all that, Now what. I like slime rancher because it doesnt really care if you go out of bounds or jump over walls. With this, there was a nice thick invisable wall locking you into everything. I couldnt find a way to jump in the playgrounds, so I started Slime-Stacking to explore. Except I couldnt because I ran into an invisable wall. Then another, and another, and another. Your hands have no collision with slimes, so you can boop them, but they will absorb your hand.
I played for about 10 minutes before I did everything there was to do. I'm dissapointed because they hyped it up to be "A fun, new way to experience the far far range!" What we got were a couple of tiny islands in the middle of the slime ocean, on the far far range.

Yea, we didnt pay for it, so? We can still be unhappy with something if it was free, we were excited for it and it flopped.

"if a game that was orignally flatscreen becomes VR and that's what makes you want that game you're shopping for games wrong." Wtf? You're saying its wrong to want a game because it came to VR? That's absurd to say, considering many have done exactly that and not been dissapointed, including me.
I feel like this needs to be reiterated : You really dont have much of a clue about this do you?
Yea yea yea, you watched videos about it. I watched videos on smithing, that doesnt make me a blacksmith. VR games often get churned out for a quick profit by developers. Its nice when you know a game is good, and it gets announced to be coming to VR.
This is not a game. This is an experience. You know, those free, quick to make games that last 5 - 10 minutes? That's what this is. It's why were complaining.

Built up hype over this, and this is exactly what we were told we were getting... I don't get why people hype something up then complain when they get what they were told it was. People did this with drones as well...

[purplecharmanderz]

Should clarify before someone decides to throw this at me.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't want more to it, you have every right to want more. But from what complaints I have read and such it follows the general concept as if they didn't deliever what they promised, yet from those same complaints, from what I can piece together we were given exactly what we were promised.

[Menzue]

Originally posted by purplecharmanderz:

Should clarify before someone decides to throw this at me.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't want more to it, you have every right to want more. But from what complaints I have read and such it follows the general concept as if they didn't deliever what they promised, yet from those same complaints, from what I can piece together we were given exactly what we were promised.

they say "unique exciting playgrounds" when its really just a ranch expansion that spawns slimes. They delivered what they promised, its just that they didnt try to spice it up to entertain the players. I sincerely hope they read the complaints and realize that.