Fullscreen borderless windows

[Sexual Velociraptor™]

Can we get the ability to not play backgrounds from behind borderless fullscreen windows? It's annoying needing to compromise in that way.

[Biohazard]

This is a Windows 7 issue, it puts the wallpaper behind the game.

There is another way to accomplish it which would avoid this, but it doesn't allow you to mix Windows wallpapers and Wallpaper Engine wallpapers when you have multiple monitors. If you don't have multiple monitors, this wouldn't be of concern, so I am going to add a setting for Windows 7 users to choose which option they want.

[Sexual Velociraptor™]

I have multiple monitors and windows 10 FWIW. I don't use windows wallpapers though, so I'd like that setting. Thanks.

[Biohazard]

Hm okay, then that setting wouldn't help since it's already doing that on Win 8/10.

Can you check my games list and filter for games we both own, is there any that you have this issue with by chance so I can try it?

[Sexual Velociraptor™]

Ah, I realise I forgot to mention an important part of my description. They don't play when the borderless fullscreen window is in focus, but when I tab to my browser in my second monitor (or any other program in a second monitor or a non-fullscreen program on the same screen as the borderless fullscreen window) the background starts playing.

Maximising a window behind or instead of the borderless fullscreen program doesn't have the same issue, No matter which window is in focus the background doesn't play.

This issue can be reproduced in DotA 2, Minecraft w/ the right options, Skyrim with a mod for borderless fullscreen, fallout 4 with borderless fullscreen, and literally every other program I've tried with borderless fullscreen.

Steps to reproduce:
1- Have a background with sound playing.
2- Launch a borderless fullscreen program
3- Focus on a non-fullscreen window or a window in another monitor.

Sorry for being so obtuse and confusing at first. I was really distracted when I wrote the first post (Friend queued for overwatch competetive without telling me and we found a match mid-post. Also Overwatch in fullscreen windowed works to reproduce this bug lol.) and didn't re-read it when I replied.

[Biohazard]

Actually... I had kinda misunderstood you, I thought you were talking about a visiblity issue (which was Win7 only) rather than the play/pause/stop feature. But I got it now.

Could you also quickly give me all the playback options you have just to be sure? I.e. fullscreen/maximized/focus: pause per monitor etc.

[Sexual Velociraptor™]

I've got a two monitor setup, Monitor 1 is my main monitor and I have a playlist of videos (mostly anime openings) set to change when one ends in order random. It has change wallpaper every 30 min and both allow wallpaper to change while paused and show wallpaper transition are disabled.

The second monitor is a bunch of pictures, gifs and silent videos on a loop with a 10 minute change time and random order, with all the settings unticked.

Fullscreen/maximized windows work as you would expect. When minimized the background plays, and when maximuized the background is paused regardless of focus and windows on top or or behind them.

Fullscreen applications pause the backgrounds when maximuzed, but not when minimized. Since they minimize when they lose focus there's no middle ground or problem here.

[Sexual Velociraptor™]

Let me know if you can't reproduce the problem with the steps I gave earlier. Even with 1 monitor it should be easy.

[Biohazard]

The next build tomorrow should have a fix: http://steamcommunity.com/app/431960/discussions/2/350544272219415004/

I haven't extensively tested it yet but it's very likely that these changes now make it pause in some situation it shouldn't pause. (I.e. if something like Rainmeter covers the desktop.)

[Sexual Velociraptor™]

Oh my god yes! Thank you!

[Biohazard]

The change is on the beta now, but as I was kinda expecting, this change would cause it to detect some windows I couldn't filter because I don't have them: http://steamcommunity.com/app/431960/discussions/1/2579854400748455891/ (at least my guess is they are using the beta and this change caused it.)

Do you think you could try around a bit and see how it behaves for you?

It might be detecting windows that cover the desktop but are transparent, like a fullscreen rainmeter window or similar.

[Sexual Velociraptor™]

Judging by the other thread you changed it back, because I just got a chance to test and it's displaying old behavior. (Playing behind fullscreen borderless.)

[Biohazard]

Yeah I have reverted it again, I'm not sure yet how to go about it. I can probably only make it an option, because there is no way I could anticipate the behavior of every single program. I'm guessing the issue is some program creating a window that basically covers the screen but is somehow hidden/transparent in an uncommon way (I'm filtering for all the obvious things like visiblity of course).

[Sexual Velociraptor™]

Maybe have a blacklist/whitelist toggle where blacklist is the default behavior as it is now and you can add windows/programs to pause the background, and whitelist is the one you briefly tested and you can add programs to NOT stop the background. Default it to blacklist to avoid messing with casuals.

[Sexual Velociraptor™]

Any updates?

[Biohazard]

Not yet, sorry, I'm working on releasing the next update first.