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[LOKE]YourC3PH Oct 30, 2017 @ 9:25pm
Disable NVIDIA Share/Shadowplay FPS Counter
What the title says. Discord has this fixed, however with Wallpaper Engine I can see the FPS Counter and Status from NVIDIA Share/Shadowplay on my Desktop, and thus when I launch a Game it does not use the FPS Counter on that Game, so I have to actually kill the game, Wallpaper Engine and disable and re-enable NVIDIA Share/Shadowplay Overlay.

It would be great if that could be fixed somehow.
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Biohazard  [developer] Oct 31, 2017 @ 4:53am 
But people reported this to be broken with discord too https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/110/
I have been following this the past two weeks since their update caused some big trouble making the entire PC lag with Wallpaper Engine running and saw Spotify, Discord, Blizzard app and a few dozen other programs. I also saw Wallpaper Engine mentioned a few times.

So Nvidia must have fixed it for Discord but not Wallpaper Engine. I have no control over this from my end. Nvidia has a list of .exe files in their program and they just have to add the ones that belong to Wallpaper Engine there to make this stop.
Last edited by Biohazard; Oct 31, 2017 @ 5:19am
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[LOKE]YourC3PH Oct 31, 2017 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by Biohazard:
But people reported this to be broken with discord too https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/110/
I have been following this the past two weeks since their update caused some big trouble making the entire PC lag with Wallpaper Engine running and saw Spotify, Discord, Blizzard app and a few dozen other programs. I also saw Wallpaper Engine mentioned a few times.

So Nvidia must have fixed it for Discord but not Wallpaper Engine. I have no control over this from my end. Nvidia has a list of .exe files in their program and they just have to add the ones that belong to Wallpaper Engine there to make this stop.

Alright, thanks mate for explaining. Are you able to contact NVIDIA and ask them to add Wallpaper Engine to the exclusion list?
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Biohazard  [developer] Oct 31, 2017 @ 7:39am 
Yes, I have recently sent them another support message. Could you also try to reach out to them, over the forum perhaps? The filenames they simply have to add to their list are

wallpaper32.exe wallpaper64.exe webwallpaper32.exe ui32.exe
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[LOKE]YourC3PH Oct 31, 2017 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by Biohazard:
Yes, I have recently sent them another support message. Could you also try to reach out to them, over the forum perhaps? The filenames they simply have to add to their list are

wallpaper32.exe wallpaper64.exe webwallpaper32.exe ui32.exe

I sure will do later, I have an account there so I will put that to use again, but their responses are very slow, so it might take a while.
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Biohazard  [developer] Oct 31, 2017 @ 11:42am 
Thanks. Well I got a response now but they frankly don't get what I'm talking about yet. I can't really find a proper way to approach them as a developer regarding this type of issue anyway. They have some forms for CUDA programming, GameWorks etc. but not this.
Last edited by Biohazard; Oct 31, 2017 @ 11:43am
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[LOKE]YourC3PH Oct 31, 2017 @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by Biohazard:
Thanks. Well I got a response now but they frankly don't get what I'm talking about yet. I can't really find a proper way to approach them as a developer regarding this type of issue anyway. They have some forms for CUDA programming, GameWorks etc. but not this.

Yeah NVIDIA is really unorganized on the consumer level, had multiple issues with them and they have no idea what people are talking about, it seems like the "Support" section can't do anything at all other than talking and saying meaningless things, which is really annoying. If there just was a way to manually exclude programs then it would all be easily fixed.
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[LOKE]YourC3PH Oct 31, 2017 @ 11:46am 
Haha, okay, so this is their "response", see what I mean? Here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1027820/geforce-experience/exclude-wallpaper-engine-from-share-shadowplay/
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Biohazard  [developer] Oct 31, 2017 @ 11:56am 
Thank you for making a thread there, I don't understand why they couldn't just forward that info. Presuming they have an exclusion list, it would be a matter of copy & pasting these executable names there and the deed would be done. They don't have to download my app and mess around with it to first reproduce the problem or so, I understand that would be an undertaking.

(Of course I can't know for sure if they have an exclusion list, but it would be very surprising if they didn't, since they don't want the overlay/streaming/recording feature in browsers/WMP or really anything but games.)

I guess I will install GFE again and use that feedback button, if there is no more direct way. Could you perhaps try the same? Should increase the chance that it gets fixed at least.
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[LOKE]YourC3PH Oct 31, 2017 @ 1:17pm 
Originally posted by Biohazard:
Thank you for making a thread there, I don't understand why they couldn't just forward that info. Presuming they have an exclusion list, it would be a matter of copy & pasting these executable names there and the deed would be done. They don't have to download my app and mess around with it to first reproduce the problem or so, I understand that would be an undertaking.

(Of course I can't know for sure if they have an exclusion list, but it would be very surprising if they didn't, since they don't want the overlay/streaming/recording feature in browsers/WMP or really anything but games.)

I guess I will install GFE again and use that feedback button, if there is no more direct way. Could you perhaps try the same? Should increase the chance that it gets fixed at least.

Already did, I sent in a Feedback right after that moron told me to.
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Rhy Oct 31, 2017 @ 1:41pm 
Sent feedback as well. Sadly they don't seem to be a custom exclusion list.
Last edited by Rhy; Oct 31, 2017 @ 3:39pm
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Biohazard  [developer] Nov 1, 2017 @ 11:43am 
This is their hard-coded exclude list: https://i.imgur.com/voURwvo.png it's in nvspcap.dll

Discord is in there but not even spotify (if I run spotify it breaks the fps counter and all, doesn't show the FPS, but definitely breaks it like people post on their forums). Most apps listed here are merely from Nvidia too, all the ones starting with NV.

nvspcaps.exe nvspcaps64.exe nvstwiz.exe nvCaptureCoreTest.exe explorer.exe iexplore.exe chrome.exe firefox.exe LogonUI.exe wmplayer.exe microsoftedge.exe microsoftedgecp.exe video.ui.exe consent.exe SearchUI.exe XboxApp.exe devenv.exe mayabatch.exe maya.exe thunderbird.exe csisyncclient.exe msosync.exe photoshop.exe dxdiag.exe OVRServer_x64.exe NVIDIA Share.exe NVIDIA Web Helper.exe NVIDIA GeForce Experience.exe NvContainer.exe Skype.exe lync.exe SkypeApp.exe vncserver.exe GamePanel.exe SystemSettings.exe svchost.exe ShellExperienceHost.exe OUTLOOK.EXE Origin.EXE xsplit.xbcbp.exe xsplit.xgcbp.exe xsplit.core.exe xsplit.gamecaster.exe XSplit.Video.Editor.exe LockAppHost.exe Discord.exe dwm.exe nvbackend.exe nvosc.exe LogonUI.exe explorer.exe gfexperience.exe nvstreamer.exe NvStreamUserAgent.exe LaunchGFExperience.exe geforceexperienceservice.exe GfExperienceService32.exe GfExperienceService64.exe nvstreamnetworkservice.exe NvStreamService.exe nvstreamsvc.exe nvvsvc.exe nvscpapisvr.exe nvnetworkservice.exe NVIDIA Share.exe NVIDIA Web Helper.exe NVIDIA GeForce Experience.exe
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[LOKE]YourC3PH Nov 8, 2017 @ 6:02pm 
@Biohazard For me it looks like they fixed it, can you check the .dll and make sure they added it? I am not having an FPS counter anymore with the latest NVIDIA Driver.

EDIT: I checked the nvspcap.dll file, and none of your .exe files listed seem to be in there, yet I don't have an FPS counter on my Desktop right now with Wallpaper Engine running, odd.
Last edited by [LOKE]YourC3PH; Nov 8, 2017 @ 6:04pm
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Biohazard  [developer] Nov 9, 2017 @ 4:11am 
Which version do you have exactly? I have driver 388.13 and GFE 3.10.0.95 and the problem exists here.

Make sure to not run Spotify or anything else hardware accelerated before WE or the counter will not show up in WE for me either. It always attaches to whatever is started first I guess.
Last edited by Biohazard; Nov 9, 2017 @ 4:56am
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[LOKE]YourC3PH Nov 9, 2017 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by Biohazard:
Which version do you have exactly? I have driver 388.13 and GFE 3.10.0.95 and the problem exists here.

Make sure to not run Spotify or anything else hardware accelerated before WE or the counter will not show up in WE for me either. It always attaches to whatever is started first I guess.

Driver 388.13 and GFE 3.10.0.95, but there is nothing that it attaches to for me, it is just gone for some reason. I had WinEth running before that, but I rebooted the PC several times to make sure it didn't attach to anything else, no FPS counter for me. Odd...
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Biohazard  [developer] Nov 9, 2017 @ 11:48am 
Did WE maybe just auto start before GFE so it wasn't triggered? But yeah, it definitely still happens with that version for me.
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