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Secondary monitor wallpaper failing to change and unload playlist when application rule "Load profile" is in effect

I've tried creating a playlist with just one wallpaper, I've tried saving it as a separate profile, I've tried creating other profiles and having it load other profiles at the same time with the same layout

Nothing is working

Other monitor works as expected
Last edited by SunCrafterHP; Oct 6, 2021 @ 4:51am
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SunCrafterHP Oct 6, 2021 @ 4:58am 
During writing this, my MAIN profile has corrupted and now the playlist has somehow copied over to my main monitor and has over written my only wallpaper I actually want there

Biohazard  [developer] Oct 6, 2021 @ 5:00am 
Can you please elaborate what you have configured to be the default wallpapers/playlists on both monitors and what is contained in the profile that you are loading with the application rule?

In case the second monitor has an unstable name in Windows, please try changing the option "monitor identification" to "layout" which will simply ignore whatever Windows identifies the monitor as. After this please select your wallpapers again, save a new profile and try the new profile (old profiles will not work with this since they have a different monitor identification).
SunCrafterHP Oct 6, 2021 @ 5:02am 
It seems changing profiles does not effect monitors that already have a playlist loaded, and trying to mess with this can cause the playlist to involuntarily copy over to other monitors somehow
Last edited by SunCrafterHP; Oct 6, 2021 @ 5:04am
SunCrafterHP Oct 6, 2021 @ 5:06am 
Originally posted by Biohazard:
Can you please elaborate what you have configured to be the default wallpapers/playlists on both monitors and what is contained in the profile that you are loading with the application rule?

In case the second monitor has an unstable name in Windows, please try changing the option "monitor identification" to "layout" which will simply ignore whatever Windows identifies the monitor as. After this please select your wallpapers again, save a new profile and try the new profile (old profiles will not work with this since they have a different monitor identification).

I have windows identifying my (2) monitor as main, I'm not sure it's the problem but I'm going to try it anyways, please stand by for more info

My main profile has one wallpaper on main and a playlist of several running on secondary. The other profile attempting to be loaded has a different wallpaper on main and a single wallpaper on second. The playlist seems to be overwriting secondary

This is what I can gather from what is happening
SunCrafterHP Oct 6, 2021 @ 5:08am 
Strange, windows correctly identifies my main as (1) but several applications identify main as (2)

More info: It seems the playlist I saved as a part of the loaded profile combines with the original playlist
Last edited by SunCrafterHP; Oct 6, 2021 @ 5:12am
Biohazard  [developer] Oct 6, 2021 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by SunCrafterHP:
My main profile has one wallpaper on main and a playlist of several running on secondary. The other profile attempting to be loaded has a different wallpaper on main and a single wallpaper on second. The playlist seems to be overwriting secondary

This is what I can gather from what is happening

Thanks, could you perhaps also check if you have this issue on the other monitor if you assign a playlist there for the main/default profile? To confirm that this is always happening when a profile tries to override a playlist and that the monitor identification may be irrelevant.

Originally posted by SunCrafterHP:
Strange, windows correctly identifies my main as (1) but several applications identify main as (2)

Normal applications basically just have no method to correctly and reliably identify monitors. Your graphics driver and Windows itself are the only things that are able to do that. For whatever reason every single method that Microsoft provides to developers can fail and is unreliable.

I don't know if this is at all relevant for this issue, but just to rule it out trying the "layout" identification could be useful.
SunCrafterHP Oct 6, 2021 @ 5:18am 
I can confirm that the playlist is not overwritten when a profile is loaded
I am currently not opted into a beta so this is an issue with the current version (or, well, just with me)
Last edited by SunCrafterHP; Oct 6, 2021 @ 5:19am
Biohazard  [developer] Oct 6, 2021 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by SunCrafterHP:
I can confirm that the playlist is not overwritten when a profile is loaded

So with the same setup on the first monitor the issue doesn't occur? It only happens on the second monitor?

Have you also tried the "layout" option already by chance and that also made no difference?
SunCrafterHP Oct 6, 2021 @ 6:48am 
It does occur on the first monitor , sorry if I wasn't clear. It seems playlists are not cleared or configured according to the loaded profile
SunCrafterHP Oct 6, 2021 @ 10:13am 
It seems now for some reason the playlist has saved over my main monitor and refuses to rewrite this, so now I HAVE to mess with wallpaper engine every time I change wallpapers one way or the other

I won't lie, I'm very very annoyed
SunCrafterHP Oct 6, 2021 @ 10:14am 
I am willing to send technical details on my computer using HWiNFO64 and also 7zip my entire wallpaper engine files if this helps

As long as I never have to deal with this again
SunCrafterHP Oct 6, 2021 @ 10:22am 
Originally posted by SunCrafterHP:
It seems now for some reason the playlist has saved over my main monitor and refuses to rewrite this, so now I HAVE to mess with wallpaper engine every time I change wallpapers one way or the other

I won't lie, I'm very very annoyed

Breakthrough, it seems using the shortcut causes this. Loading it manually through "Choose a display" works fine but using the shortcut causes incorrect loading

Originally posted by Biohazard:

So with the same setup on the first monitor the issue doesn't occur? It only happens on the second monitor?

Have you also tried the "layout" option already by chance and that also made no difference?

It however does not fix the playlist persisting between profiles, and the incorrect wallpapers being loaded through "application rules/Load profile" through

I tried the layout option, does not seem to effect anything
Last edited by SunCrafterHP; Oct 6, 2021 @ 10:24am
SunCrafterHP Oct 6, 2021 @ 10:31am 
I don't know what is going on anymore, there is no logic to it
I just went and saved main profile, saved it after double checking everything was correct, then went to my "loaded profile" loading it manually, cleared the playlist, double checked everything was correct and saved.

I then manually loaded my main profile and the playlist was loaded on both monitors. I cleared the playlist on my main monitor and exited wallpaper engines change wallpaper menu and suddenly my profile changed, without my or any application rules telling it to, to my "loaded profile"
Last edited by SunCrafterHP; Oct 6, 2021 @ 10:34am
SunCrafterHP Oct 6, 2021 @ 10:42am 
I remade the profiles completely and saved under a new name, this fixed the issue, even with shortcuts

It seems somehow my profiles became corrupted or glitched to such a degree that overwriting them did not fix the issue and only made it worse

I don't know how this happened, only that it did, and I'm very thankful to be over it
Last edited by SunCrafterHP; Oct 6, 2021 @ 10:45am
Biohazard  [developer] Oct 6, 2021 @ 11:01am 
If your settings get messed up, you can restore them from the config_backups directory where Wallpaper Engine keeps backups for the last 7 days the config was updated.

We will see if we can find the issue based on your hints, thanks.
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