If I dislike tales of arise story, will I like tales of berseria?

[nullpo]

I'm just wondering if the game had the same bland naive mc and children's book style story like tales of arise. The discount is tempting but if I won't like it anyways it's still money wasted.

[Chariothe]

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Or maybe it is time to learn her now and see how she changes instead of skipping events.

Does she change her attitude towards exorcists and other people and her goal in general ? I gave it a few more hours after my initial post, but she's still the same.

wdym? you don't think her wrath is justified? Berseria is driven with her vengeance and rage, She's anti-hero. if you are not into it, and waiting to see her forgiveness, like a hero of justice willing to sacrifice the lesser for greater, then you are playing wrong game.

[sick duck]

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Does she change her attitude towards exorcists and other people and her goal in general ? I gave it a few more hours after my initial post, but she's still the same.

wdym? you don't think her wrath is justified? Berseria is driven with her vengeance and rage, She's anti-hero. if you are not into it, and waiting to see her forgiveness, like a hero of justice willing to sacrifice the lesser for greater, then you are playing wrong game.

The characters you describe are both included in Berseria, and don't really agree that it is the wrong game. Thing is that each type are mutually exclusive from the other, and you just have to wait and see which character fills the said roles. I will say this: Berseria is definitely a new age type of story. In the old times before it used to be stuff like superman fighting against evil, but now we get lots of stories that like to point out the conditions that make people evil which makes for some pretty long stories.

[Chariothe]

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The characters you describe are both included in Berseria, and don't really agree that it is the wrong game. Thing is that each type are mutually exclusive from the other, and you just have to wait and see which character fills the said roles. I will say this: Berseria is definitely a new age type of story. In the old times before it used to be stuff like superman fighting against evil, but now we get lots of stories that like to point out the conditions that make people evil which makes for some pretty long stories.

all right i know what you are saying, after i recalled some moment in the game, I finished this many years ago so i kind of remembered only few scenes. but the impression i got from this guy after reading his comments is that he is in a rush to see Velvet change in early game, and it doesn't look like he's enjoying it so i don't recommend the game.

[ReflKnight]

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wdym? you don't think her wrath is justified? Berseria is driven with her vengeance and rage, She's anti-hero. if you are not into it, and waiting to see her forgiveness, like a hero of justice willing to sacrifice the lesser for greater, then you are playing wrong game.

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You should play and find out, but she isn't carrying the story all alone. Other people with you have their own things happening and they have their own speical relationship to Velvet. It is not a one way street, and you know Velvet enough by now that she is not going to change in relation to the story, however this doesn't mean the story is going to be without surprises.

I'm all up for a good vengeance story, but when everyone are hyping Berseria as they do, claiming it's story is on a different league than Arise, I grabbed it to play after Arise. And if this is the vengeance story everyone were talking about, then.. ye.. you could say I'm rather disappointed.

I won't say how I think the story should have gone for the vengeance plot to work, as I suppose it's all a matter of perspective and personal taste. I just didn't get that vengeance vibe from it, like for example AC Origins Byak's intro. There, even though I didn't had to much of understanding of what's going on, it got me fired up. Probably just got over-hyped about this game, is all.

I'm still trying to explore everything before moving on and am playing on a high difficulty for better or worse, just think if this is the cast I'll be sticking with, then ye plot and characters just aren't for me.

[archmag]

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Does she change her attitude towards exorcists and other people and her goal in general ? I gave it a few more hours after my initial post, but she's still the same.

wdym? you don't think her wrath is justified? Berseria is driven with her vengeance and rage, She's anti-hero. if you are not into it, and waiting to see her forgiveness, like a hero of justice willing to sacrifice the lesser for greater, then you are playing wrong game.

Actually I don't see her raging. She has good control through all the game. She goes out of control only once in the very beginning. The rest of the game she is unexpectedly collected and does not do stupid thing like trying to attack her enemy as soon as she sees him dragging her friends into unwinnable battle with all the guards around. Even when she confronts an enemy she has a prepared plan in place which she discusses beforehand. I expect something bad can still happen in the future as I didn't finish the game yet, only 40hours in and looking for the final thing that they are collecting from the Abbey.

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Or maybe it is time to learn her now and see how she changes instead of skipping events.

Does she change her attitude towards exorcists and other people and her goal in general ? I gave it a few more hours after my initial post, but she's still the same.

Does she have too? She is not some one-sided character where revenge is the only thing that defines her. She also has a wall around her heart

after being betrayed by the 2nd closest person in her life and then being fed demons alone in the cell for 3 years without any human contact. Which is why she is so anti-social in the beginning. Why would she trust some demon that invited himself into her party or witch that just tags alone for no apparent reason when even her brother-in-law betrayed her. But eventually she lowers her walls, starts trusting her allies, starts to care about others again and this changes her. But it doesn't change her back. She was a naive child in the prologue with some unreachable dreams and no certain goal in life, she becomes a determined woman in the beginning of the game with a clear goal.

It's fine not to like her in the beginning (I doubt any character is likable from the get go when you know nothing about them yet), but she grows on you eventually especially when you notice those changes, that she is not just vengeance machine.

Edit: And... they broke her as I expected. So it is the story which consists of tragic beginning which sets the reason for protagonist to go on revenge journey, breaking the walls which protagonist created around his heart because of trauma, breaking the protagonist, and finally getting him back due to connection he acquired on his journey where his priorities change and instead of revenge for the past he starts fighting to protect what he has now (this part I have yet to see in this game so it may not even happen although I doubt it). Cases from anime that I watched which this reminds me of: Van from GunXSword and Eren from Attack on Titan. Still interesting to play because you don't encounter such story very often and the journey although similar is actually different for each of those character.

[sick duck]

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It's fine not to like her in the beginning (I doubt any character is likable from the get go when you know nothing about them yet),

Magilou. She was love at first sight, admit it! She would be at the top of a character tier list, and Velvet takes a long time to get anywhere near that top. Magilou is usually completely dumb and almost never serious or intense, she is like a mirror image of Velvet in that regard.

[Ash vs. Himself]

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Berseria will make you cry for good reasons, Arise makes you cry because you're wondering how it can be so much worse than Berseria despite being new.

What's so bad about it? I'm kind of in the middle on Tales games, but I loved Berseria and liked Vesperia. What's wrong with this one?

[Chariothe]

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What's so bad about it? I'm kind of in the middle on Tales games, but I loved Berseria and liked Vesperia. What's wrong with this one?

I'll give you two
Forgettable Villains
Weird location decision that break my immersion(1st chapter)

[archmag]

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Forgettable Villains

How can you forget Velvet?

Weird location decision that break my immersion(1st chapter)

The Velvet's village? Or does it counts as a prologue. So the prison then? What was weird about it?

[Chariothe]

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Forgettable Villains

How can you forget Velvet?

Weird location decision that break my immersion(1st chapter)

The Velvet's village? Or does it counts as a prologue. So the prison then? What was weird about it?

I thought he asked about Arise? isn't he?

[archmag]

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How can you forget Velvet?

The Velvet's village? Or does it counts as a prologue. So the prison then? What was weird about it?

I thought he asked about Arise? isn't he?

Ohh, sorry. I see then.

[Chariothe]

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I thought he asked about Arise? isn't he?

Ohh, sorry. I see then.

Berseria did that 10 times better, both Velvet and Artorius is amazing character

[ToeFungo]

Arise is one of the best games made. The story was so damn amazing.