Looks like it's connected to more than just Zestiria

[Xecil]

Eizen's coin having Martel on one side, and Dhaos on the other. It comes from Kharlan as well. It's a "far off land." So that puts ToP, ToS, ToZ, and ToB on the same world.

[Orange]

Or it's just a reference and subtle nod to the fanbase and not meant to be taken so seriously.

[Shadow Esper]

Most of the events of the games apply within the natural laws of that single planet.

Thus.

Somewhere else in the universe is the other planets of the other stories.

So yes, it's same universe, just not the same world.

So derris Kharlan could pass by other planets and leave artifacts. Stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ space elves.

[Winged One]

its just a reference, an easter egg.. pretty much every single Tales game has some reference to Phantasia or other earlier titles (like the side quest in Xillia 2 where the client is listed as "Dhaos" and he wants an orange cape).. just a way to make the fans go "hey, I know what they are referncing there, nice nod"..

the fact that ToZ/ToB's world runs on completely different laws of nature than Aselia show they are not connected..

Originally posted by Shadow Esper:

Most of the events of the games apply within the natural laws of that single planet.

Thus.

Somewhere else in the universe is the other planets of the other stories.

So yes, it's same universe, just not the same world.

So derris Kharlan could pass by other planets and leave artifacts. Stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ space elves.

I see you are a follower of the recurrence theory..

[Shadow Esper]

Originally posted by theseraph1:

Originally posted by Shadow Esper:

Most of the events of the games apply within the natural laws of that single planet.

Thus.

Somewhere else in the universe is the other planets of the other stories.

So yes, it's same universe, just not the same world.

So derris Kharlan could pass by other planets and leave artifacts. Stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ space elves.

I see you are a follower of the recurrence theory..

Best Theory

[cantseeshit]

Dhaos is a wordplay on the word Chaos. Part of the greek mythology. Tales devs like to grab things from mythologies etc... to make their games. You'll find things mentioned like Yggdrasil and such in every game.

[Yuen]

There's always that mine with that tunnel in Tales of Symphonia that we were never able to enter leading to who knows where.

[Xecil]

Originally posted by Shadow Esper:

Most of the events of the games apply within the natural laws of that single planet.

Thus.

Somewhere else in the universe is the other planets of the other stories.

So yes, it's same universe, just not the same world.

So derris Kharlan could pass by other planets and leave artifacts. Stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ space elves.

Valid point. I forgot about Derris Kharlan traveling through space 'n stuff.

[Durzo B.]

Originally posted by Xecil:

Eizen's coin having Martel on one side, and Dhaos on the other. It comes from Kharlan as well. It's a "far off land." So that puts ToP, ToS, ToZ, and ToB on the same world.

It's fanservice. I too geeked out.

Also lets not forget that the angels in ToS were essentially space elves and Dherris Kharlan floated through spacetime. Also Eizen does say "In another land"

[Winged One]

Originally posted by Shadow Esper:

Originally posted by theseraph1:

I see you are a follower of the recurrence theory..

Best Theory

I still say what I said when the theory first popped up among the fanbase (back shortly afet ToS's original release), it just doesn't make sense..

each games fundamental laws of their universe are completely different.. who is/isn't capable of magic, whether world trees exist, the abilities of primordial beings are inconsistant (looking at you maxwell), the drawbacks of technological advancement, the existance/lack of actual gods..


there is just to many inconsistancies between the basis of how each world functions for the recurrence theory to make much sense..

Originally posted by Shigeyama:

There's always that mine with that tunnel in Tales of Symphonia that we were never able to enter leading to who knows where.

we actually have a very good idea of where it leads, assuming that is the same mine from Phantasia (which most agree it likely is)..

[Simon]

It is just like how Rollo is mentioned in Velvet's hometown, and the Aifread shop's name is called "Patty & Chat Students Store" (i think it is named something like that)
Those are just reference in Tales. They are not connected in the world and stuff.

ToP's world is called Aselia and had two moons called Sylvarant & Tethe'alla. Before the world merged in Symphonia, world was split into both Sylvarant & Tethe'alla. They also have a world tree in their world. They also have mana. They have elves
ToZ and ToB dont have that kind of sht.

ToZ and ToB only have Sheraphim, Hellions and Shepherd sht. There is no mana in their world. Seraphim (Malakhim) are just a races who can manipulate the forces of nature.

I don't think they takes place in the same world, but maybe their two worlds had interactions in the past.

[Winged One]

Originally posted by Simon:

It is just like how Rollo (from Xillia) is mentioned in Velvet's hometown, and the Aifread shop's name is called "Patty & Chat Students Store" (i think it is named something like that)
Patty is from Vesperia PS3 and Chat is from Eternia. Those are just reference in Tales. They are not connected in the world and stuff.

ToP's world is called Aselia and had two moons called Sylvarant & Tethe'alla. Before the world merged in Symphonia, world was split into both Sylvarant & Tethe'alla. They also have a world tree in their world. They also have mana. They have elves
ToZ and ToB dont have that kind of sht.

ToZ and ToB only have Sheraphim, Hellions and Shepherd sht. There is no mana in their world. Seraphim (Malakhim) are just a races who can manipulate the forces of nature. Basically, it is similar to Avatar the Last Airbender stuff, with water or fire bending, they just added some magic into it.

I don't think they takes place in the same world, but maybe ancient civilization had interactions between their two world in the past.

Aifreds pirate ship also shares the same name as the ship from Eternia.. actually, Aifred is the name of a pirate mentioned in every game since the series began (hes essentially the Tales version of Cid at this point)..

we have joke dialogue in Xillia 2 referencing Sekundes, along with all the job board quests for sealed weapons being written as if they came from other Tales characters (many of which contradict each other because both characters wouldn't have been alive at the same time), along with all the cats being named after them.. a skit in Vesperia making fun of the concept of Swordians..

they are all just references and easter eggs, not signs of a joined universe.. its basically one of the devs ways of going "hey, remember those older games you liked? yeah, we remember them to!"..



its important to note they don't only refernce other Tales games, but other JRPGs in general.. there have been a few refernces to FF7, a couple of Dragon Quest games, Chrono Trigger, heck KOS-MOS from Xenosaga is refernced regularly (and has even made a direct appearance once)..