Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection

Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection

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Vayne Nov 1, 2017 @ 8:59am
Another xseed game another no japanese audio
What a let down
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Saralene  [developer] Nov 1, 2017 @ 9:03am 
I mean, we'd love to give you the Japanese audio, but for this game, we weren't able to obtain the rights. We do give dual audio whenever it's possible and some of our releases have even been Japanese audio only. Sadly, we've never been able to get the rights to Japanese audio for any of Falcom's older titles thus far.
Last edited by Saralene; Nov 1, 2017 @ 9:03am
Vayne Nov 1, 2017 @ 9:03am 
Originally posted by Sara:
I mean, we'd love to give you the Japanese audio, but for this game, we weren't able to obtain the rights.
We do give dual audio whenever it's possible and some of our releases have even been Japanese audio only.
Sadly, we've never been able to get the rights to Japanese audio for any of Falcom's older titles thus far.

How abput cold steel 2?
myah Nov 1, 2017 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by Vayne Atelier:
Originally posted by Sara:
I mean, we'd love to give you the Japanese audio, but for this game, we weren't able to obtain the rights.
We do give dual audio whenever it's possible and some of our releases have even been Japanese audio only.
Sadly, we've never been able to get the rights to Japanese audio for any of Falcom's older titles thus far.

How abput cold steel 2?
it won't have japanese audio as well, you can easily undub it though
Originally posted by Nat:
They also can't do a different Japanese VA, technically they could but would be expensive and ppl would question it even more if they get new VAs.

Doing this is also a huge cultural faux pas in Japan and would make future licensing harder. It'd be seen as a slap in the face to the original VAs.
Last edited by Jeffer'son Airship; Nov 1, 2017 @ 11:47am
Vayne Nov 1, 2017 @ 4:10pm 
I guess its about MONEY. Aksys and nisa can do it

Ys7 - xseed - no japanese audio
Ys8 - nisa - japanese audio
Last edited by Vayne; Nov 1, 2017 @ 4:14pm
Saralene  [developer] Nov 1, 2017 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by Vayne Atelier:
I guess its about MONEY. Aksys and nisa can do it

Ys7 - xseed - no japanese audio
Ys8 - nisa - japanese audio
Never assume it's about the money. :P We've put a lot of money toward Japanese audio at times.
That said, Tokyo Xanadu and Ys VIII were released after our 'newest' Falcom game, Cold Steel 2.
It's possible that something has changed in more recent Falcom projects that allowed them to do it.
We've always tried, but we've never been able to thus far. We will always keep trying, though.
Last edited by Saralene; Nov 1, 2017 @ 4:24pm
rikuroa Nov 1, 2017 @ 4:24pm 
Originally posted by Vayne Atelier:
I guess its about MONEY. Aksys and nisa can do it

Ys7 - xseed - no japanese audio
Ys8 - nisa - japanese audio
and your point is? I'd rather have no weeb voices than a dumbster fire quality localisation.
Nono Nov 1, 2017 @ 7:10pm 
So..during the whole Kadokawa x Kemono Friends shenanigans i heard a rumour that XSEED is blacklisted by Kadokawa and that's the reason why obtaining JP voice for falcom game is almost impossible for them. Is that true?
Minneyar Nov 1, 2017 @ 8:15pm 
That's a pretty far-fetched rumor. Any support for that? Any why would it come up during the Kemono Friends fiasco?

More likely, we already know that Japanese voice actors' contracts often specify that their voices may not be used outside of Asian regions; sometimes it's possible to renegotiate that, but if even one VA refuses, it makes the whole thing fall through. It's worse for older games, where renegotiating the original contracts may simply be impossible.
Seraphita Nov 1, 2017 @ 8:28pm 
https://steamcommunity.com/app/538680/discussions/0/2592234299552757196/?ctp=16#c1520386297680382846

I searched around google and found this. Nono isn't the first person mentioning it. Other than that, I didn't find anything solid but that could also be hidden information without confirmation.
Greyshm Nov 1, 2017 @ 8:37pm 
Originally posted by Vayne Atelier:
I guess its about MONEY. Aksys and nisa can do it

NISA can do it. And give you broken promises (still awaiting the PC port of Ys 8) and Abyssmal Localizations to boot.
Aksys can do it. And give you an inconsitent localization on top of JPN audio only.

Last edited by Greyshm; Nov 1, 2017 @ 8:38pm
Vayne Nov 1, 2017 @ 8:58pm 
Originally posted by Talamir:
Originally posted by Vayne Atelier:
I guess its about MONEY. Aksys and nisa can do it

NISA can do it. And give you broken promises (still awaiting the PC port of Ys 8) and Abyssmal Localizations to boot.
Aksys can do it. And give you an inconsitent localization on top of JPN audio only.

Better than no japanese audio. Most jrpg from tecmo have japanese audio only, thats way better. If only jrpg have same eng voice quality like western games
You can literally extract the Japanese WAV audio files from Zwei II Plus, copy-paste them into the same folder for Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection, and then delete all the other files which are English-only. That way, you hear only the original VA and still get to play in your choice of English or Japanese. The undub's already out if you know where to look.

I'd rather go with a localizer which prioritizes a strong script and technical upgrades over time vs. a competitor doing a rush job but with a suspiciously nice CE and dual-audio. Ys VIII's a bad first impression for NISA tying to handle a Falcom game, considering they underestimated the reaction to missing the PC port launch coupled with people seeing how disappointing the localization is relative to the game's amount of story (more than ever before in Ys).
Vayne Nov 1, 2017 @ 9:20pm 
Originally posted by Don Rumata En Regalia:
You can literally extract the Japanese WAV audio files from Zwei II Plus, copy-paste them into the same folder for Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection, and then delete all the other files which are English-only. That way, you hear only the original VA and still get to play in your choice of English or Japanese. The undub's already out if you know where to look.

I'd rather go with a localizer which prioritizes a strong script and technical upgrades over time vs. a competitor doing a rush job but with a suspiciously nice CE and dual-audio. Ys VIII's a bad first impression for NISA tying to handle a Falcom game, considering they underestimated the reaction to missing the PC port launch coupled with people seeing how disappointing the localization is relative to the game's amount of story (more than ever before in Ys).

Dont forget that cold steel 1 was delayed as well. So players have to work to find ♥♥♥ audio while dev just stay chill? Okay...
Last edited by Vayne; Nov 1, 2017 @ 9:21pm
Onizuka Nov 1, 2017 @ 9:41pm 
Originally posted by Vayne Atelier:
Originally posted by Sara:
I mean, we'd love to give you the Japanese audio, but for this game, we weren't able to obtain the rights.
We do give dual audio whenever it's possible and some of our releases have even been Japanese audio only.
Sadly, we've never been able to get the rights to Japanese audio for any of Falcom's older titles thus far.

How abput cold steel 2?

You can apparantly blame Kadokawa for that one. They supposedly got pretty pissed with XSSED over a contract they refused to sign.
Last edited by Onizuka; Nov 1, 2017 @ 9:50pm
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