some crafts don`t make sense

[Crochwhisle purple]

a porcelain explosive is really bad, proven by the fact that they haven`t seen use (in non-barbarian countries) for well more than a hundred years. The claymore also using soil is kinda dumb. Some things needing a miniature computer is really unnecessary. Needing rebar for a toilet that uses pipes in its model. The grinder needing a air compressor, even though a vacuum does not. Does anybody else catch some things they wanna point out?

[MechWarden]

I've noticed, and I really don't feel like writing up a small book on how many things are wrong about the game.

I totally get what you mean, but right now I'm mostly focusing on the gameplay as best I can. Granted, things meeting expectations is important too. For example, having a makeshift toilet need stuff from the second area, which it never uses, does feel a bit off.

The thing I found the most jarring was the 'higher quality' batteries. I can let a good amount of 'video game logic' go by, but those things just felt bad.

[ReDsKuLL]

There's a few things that are off, but the devs seem to have at least a basic understanding of certain principles. Building an explosive in game using a bag of soil isn't exactly right, but if you know how things work, it's somewhat close to accurate. I won't give specifics for reasons that should be obvious.

Vacuums also don't use air compressors. They spin a motorized brush/fan to create a pressure difference. The grinder is is a bit silly and wouldn't perform well in reality, but the basic idea is propelling a projectile with compressed air. Those two things aren't really related. I will say that needing chain for an air compressor seem a little odd to me, however. I'm not an expert, but I've done a small amount of work on and around them. Unless chain is used on a few parts I've not had to work with, my guess is they're substituting it for a belt. In fact many things seem like a light substitute, most likely to avoid over-complicating crafting.

Overall, I'd actually give the devs some praise for being much closer to realistic than most other survival games' crafting systems.

[MechWarden]

Yeah, for balancing out realism with game balance, they are doing pretty well, so I don't complain too much about some of the absurd things.

[Crochwhisle purple]

the most weird part would be how rarely glue is actually used. For some reason tape seems to be more needed than superglue. It`s dumb gameplay wise and logic wise.

[ReDsKuLL]

Автор сообщения: Crochwhisle purple

the most weird part would be how rarely glue is actually used. For some reason tape seems to be more needed than superglue. It`s dumb gameplay wise and logic wise.

Well, the use of tape over glue is sometimes valid. Impact force can break glue joints, but enough good duct tape can make surprisingly strong attachments. It is surprising how little glue gets used in crafting, though.

[MechWarden]

Автор сообщения: Crochwhisle purple

the most weird part would be how rarely glue is actually used. For some reason tape seems to be more needed than superglue. It`s dumb gameplay wise and logic wise.

I take it someone hasn't figured out how to make glue yet.

And in this case, it make some sense. Except it doesn't use horse hooves.

[Yaridovich]

"a porcelain explosive is really bad" and yet you seem to be forgetting that these are items being created by scientists/engineers/guards who are trying to survive with whatever they can find. They're not going to find materials for actual explosives and just using whatever they can find, hence grenades using mugs.

You're expecting WAY too much realism from this game.

[Crochwhisle purple]

Автор сообщения: Yaridovich

"a porcelain explosive is really bad" and yet you seem to be forgetting that these are items being created by scientists/engineers/guards who are trying to survive with whatever they can find. They're not going to find materials for actual explosives and just using whatever they can find, hence grenades using mugs.

You're expecting WAY too much realism from this game.

a metal bucket or a soda can is a better substitute than ♥♥♥♥ inducting coffee