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Penaldo May 10, 2024 @ 8:50pm
How to effectively kill the order bros
Security pistol sux ars it took 2 whole magazine to finish one and they were like had 25% to drop one magazine as consolation that's if we put aside the fact that he'll immediately summoned another 2-3 extra grunt dudes and there's just no ammos to take them all down. Is there any effective method to deal with them?
Originally posted by Insano-Man:
Circle-strafing. They can't hit a moving target. They fire in very predictable bursts, so you can dodge their shots, then close for a hit.

Headshots. Bodyshots do basically nothing to them, even with high-tier weapons. On a good day, a power attack to the noggin with a thermal mallet will drop them flat.

Tactical play. Don't just run up to the big garrison near the crane and fight everyone at once. Don't try to circle-strafe while you're 10 meters down a narrow catwalk. Use chokepoints and corners. Prioritize targets; SMG grunts are more dangerous than pistol goons.

I've also noticed that blunt weapons and firearms will knock the helmets off of the grunts who wear them. As far as I can tell, headshots are essentially bodyshots while they still have their helmet, so I usually open with a mallet swipe to get it off, and then start their dental work with my spear.
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Biggity Swigger May 10, 2024 @ 8:54pm 
kitchen knife
Penaldo May 10, 2024 @ 9:00pm 
Originally posted by Biggity Swigger:
kitchen knife
Is kitchen knife more effective? I'm currently using either rat scanner or wrench hit them as running in circle but soon as more of them showing up they just wipe me on the floor.
xxxaziexxx May 10, 2024 @ 9:11pm 
Originally posted by white lives matter:
I'm currently using either rat scanner or wrench hit them as running in circle but soon as more of them showing up they just wipe me on the floor.

I'm using a rat scanner too. They don't have the best aim for moving targets, so I run serpentine if I'm caught out in the open by a squad. If I have to take more than one, if I can get to a doorway I can hide on the other side.

They tend to come through one at a time then the AI decides that they--a ranged unit--generally don't like being that close to me, so the run back through the door where they can't see me anymore. Rinse and repeat, until I have a pile of very dead militants.

Also, it feels like head shots DO matter--even in melee. So if you can whack them in the head, I would try to do so.
Last edited by xxxaziexxx; May 10, 2024 @ 9:12pm
FerrousAradicen May 10, 2024 @ 10:10pm 
Using the spear is pretty effective, aim for the head.
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Insano-Man May 10, 2024 @ 10:22pm 
Circle-strafing. They can't hit a moving target. They fire in very predictable bursts, so you can dodge their shots, then close for a hit.

Headshots. Bodyshots do basically nothing to them, even with high-tier weapons. On a good day, a power attack to the noggin with a thermal mallet will drop them flat.

Tactical play. Don't just run up to the big garrison near the crane and fight everyone at once. Don't try to circle-strafe while you're 10 meters down a narrow catwalk. Use chokepoints and corners. Prioritize targets; SMG grunts are more dangerous than pistol goons.

I've also noticed that blunt weapons and firearms will knock the helmets off of the grunts who wear them. As far as I can tell, headshots are essentially bodyshots while they still have their helmet, so I usually open with a mallet swipe to get it off, and then start their dental work with my spear.
1. scrapshot guns. you need to have headshots for it to work. if you can land a full headshot with the scrapshot shotgun then you can almost could kill it in 1-2 shot. scrapshot pistol needed like 2-3 headshots to kill them.

2. spears. the registry already told you that order bros are weak to sharp damage. thankfully spears have longer reach so you dont need to kiss the order bros while you strafe them to death.

3. grinder. this sawdisc shooting gun is your final answer to the order bros (in the manufacturing of course). hits like a truck and could hold 10 ammo in the mag with respectable rate of fire, you can reliably kill order bros with 2 headshots and makes you able to take multiple of them at a time to a reasonable degree. simply my favorite weapon. to quickly access it youll need chains, which is located in the dig site.
Last edited by Burning like KELT-9b; May 10, 2024 @ 11:13pm
Yaridovich May 10, 2024 @ 11:51pm 
Originally posted by Insano-Man:
Circle-strafing. They can't hit a moving target. They fire in very predictable bursts, so you can dodge their shots, then close for a hit.

Headshots. Bodyshots do basically nothing to them, even with high-tier weapons. On a good day, a power attack to the noggin with a thermal mallet will drop them flat.

Tactical play. Don't just run up to the big garrison near the crane and fight everyone at once. Don't try to circle-strafe while you're 10 meters down a narrow catwalk. Use chokepoints and corners. Prioritize targets; SMG grunts are more dangerous than pistol goons.

I've also noticed that blunt weapons and firearms will knock the helmets off of the grunts who wear them. As far as I can tell, headshots are essentially bodyshots while they still have their helmet, so I usually open with a mallet swipe to get it off, and then start their dental work with my spear.

Spears will take off helmets as well. Mostly any attack to the head will remove the helmet.

Originally posted by white lives matter:
Security pistol sux ars it took 2 whole magazine to finish one and they were like had 25% to drop one magazine as consolation that's if we put aside the fact that he'll immediately summoned another 2-3 extra grunt dudes and there's just no ammos to take them all down. Is there any effective method to deal with them?

The pistol only sucks if you're aiming for bodyshots. Just aim for headshots, 3-4 shots will kill them. The pistol is actually great against them.
Deez May 11, 2024 @ 12:46am 
Preface: I play SP with all server settings maxed to benefit SP...
With stealth maxed out, I lay traps everywhere: lots of trip mines, shock traps, and chopinators. All the traps persist through the facility and can be re-used infinitely without consuming resources. Then I lure them over with crossbow and 9mm. Fire Hammer and Weld Spear if they ever get close enough. Cleared the entire manufacturing and they respawn, and repeat. Future plan is to pepper the entire facility with traps so I don't even have to fight :laughing_yeti:
Retired May 11, 2024 @ 12:49am 
Order is resistant to blunt damage, so a spear to the face works incredibly well

If you can make the scrap shotgun, it will usually one shot them to the head at incredibly close range

If you are still having trouble, you could try sneaking thru manufacturing until you can gather enough parts to create the FORGE armour. It helps to mitigate some of the bullet damage
Penaldo May 11, 2024 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by Retired:
Order is resistant to blunt damage, so a spear to the face works incredibly well

If you can make the scrap shotgun, it will usually one shot them to the head at incredibly close range

If you are still having trouble, you could try sneaking thru manufacturing until you can gather enough parts to create the FORGE armour. It helps to mitigate some of the bullet damage
I got most of the FORGE except the trouser part. May i ask what is the requirement for it.
Yaridovich May 11, 2024 @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by white lives matter:
Originally posted by Retired:
Order is resistant to blunt damage, so a spear to the face works incredibly well

If you can make the scrap shotgun, it will usually one shot them to the head at incredibly close range

If you are still having trouble, you could try sneaking thru manufacturing until you can gather enough parts to create the FORGE armour. It helps to mitigate some of the bullet damage
I got most of the FORGE except the trouser part. May i ask what is the requirement for it.

4 Chain, 2 Reinforced Hose, 2 Rebar

You're probably missing the Chains, which you'll find throughout the mines area in Manufacturing.
scum May 12, 2024 @ 2:04am 
i dont know if anyone knows about this but stock up on tripwire mines, place them in their path and initiate combat with them, move up and do this to every next enemy you see
Fireman3000 May 12, 2024 @ 2:21am 
In the journal you can see what type of damage certain creatures are vulnerable to. Including order. And judging by the log, they are most vulnerable to piercing damage. Personally, I use electric spear (in the endgame), although in the initial stages a wrench also worked well

But in general, it all depends on the level of weapon ability. At level 10 in proficiency with sharp weapons, members of the order die quite easily even from some kind of sharpening or kitchen knife. From my subjective opinion, the level of ability greatly affects the damage dealt and the chance of a crit
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