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Gugelugu Jun 6, 2024 @ 9:46pm
♥♥♥♥♥♥ laser "puzzle" at the end of the game soured an otherwise good experience
there is no thought to this. the puzzle consists of scouring the map for the exact combination of stackable (important) furniture that also allows the prism to be placed on the final piece, and every time you find something that might work, you have a 60% chance of it exploding into materials. obnoxious, time wasting, and tedious.
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Limesy Jun 6, 2024 @ 11:08pm 
This isn't exactly helpful. How would you have changed it?

I personally didn't find it too bad, although I do agree that it breaking items is a little frustrating.
Gugelugu Jun 6, 2024 @ 11:38pm 
I would have had a selection of 100% package rate furniture scattered around the room that can be used as building pieces for the puzzle.
Yaridovich Jun 6, 2024 @ 11:44pm 
2 small crates and 1 laser deflector stacked very closely to the source of the laser. Requires some positioning, but it works.

You're welcome.
CombatWombat Jun 6, 2024 @ 11:55pm 
Originally posted by Gugelugu:
there is no thought to this. the puzzle consists of scouring the map for the exact combination of stackable (important) furniture that also allows the prism to be placed on the final piece, and every time you find something that might work, you have a 60% chance of it exploding into materials. obnoxious, time wasting, and tedious.

Have you ever thought of placing the furniture NOT in the way of the laser?

You can mount the prism on the side FYI.
Bowlcut Jun 7, 2024 @ 1:00am 
I just used one filing cabinet and put the laser deflector on the side of it
Monokuma Jun 7, 2024 @ 2:47am 
I'd like to mention that the laser system isn't even implemented yet and this isn't strictly the intended solution for the puzzle. It's just TECHNICALLY able to be completed because they already finished rise and wanted players to be able to access it if they really wanted.
MechWarden Jun 7, 2024 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by Monokuma:
I'd like to mention that the laser system isn't even implemented yet and this isn't strictly the intended solution for the puzzle. It's just TECHNICALLY able to be completed because they already finished rise and wanted players to be able to access it if they really wanted.
I find this out, after the fact. :steamfacepalm:

After I made like 5 deflectors, and merged all the near by beams together (because the deflector description said it weakened the beam), and after breaking the little spot with a disheartening glass break, and still working at it for another half hour or an hour because nothing seemed to have happened and I thought I did something wrong.

To say that the puzzle wasn't finished and could use some explaining is a little bit of an understatement.

I know the game isn't finished yet, but some note hinting that this was more unfinished than normal would have helped out a lot of people.
Monokuma Jun 7, 2024 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by MechWarden:
Originally posted by Monokuma:
I'd like to mention that the laser system isn't even implemented yet and this isn't strictly the intended solution for the puzzle. It's just TECHNICALLY able to be completed because they already finished rise and wanted players to be able to access it if they really wanted.
I find this out, after the fact. :steamfacepalm:

After I made like 5 deflectors, and merged all the near by beams together (because the deflector description said it weakened the beam), and after breaking the little spot with a disheartening glass break, and still working at it for another half hour or an hour because nothing seemed to have happened and I thought I did something wrong.

To say that the puzzle wasn't finished and could use some explaining is a little bit of an understatement.

I know the game isn't finished yet, but some note hinting that this was more unfinished than normal would have helped out a lot of people.
I mean, I'm only speculating given that they A: updated the game to cover up the door because people kept thinking you progressed through Rise, and B: well, laser update is in summer.

I'd actually be disappointed if the laser puzzle is intended to be solved with what's available right now
MechWarden Jun 7, 2024 @ 9:14am 
I heard from somewhere that the devs were surprised to see players in Rise, either so soon or at all; leading me to believe that it wasn't intended to be solved.

With the way stuff is worded and how the deflectors are setup, it looks like it should be way easier to understand, way less finicky, but yet way more involved to solve (like an actual puzzle), than it actually is.

Popping the little portal thing with one beam is likely not going to cut it when it is properly implemented.
Unwieldy Bob Jun 7, 2024 @ 7:17pm 
It needs to be reworked into an actual logic puzzle with multiple beams, perhaps randomized.
I mean, the Laser Rework is coming on the next update, odds are that will do the trick for it.
you can put laser redirectors ontop of eachother and then just dismantle one. The other will stay in the air and you can just put one back until you direct it perfectly at the portal. It took me only 3: 1 pointing the laser straight, one shooting up, and the last looking straight into the portal
Monokuma Jun 8, 2024 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by Crochwhisle purple:
you can put laser redirectors ontop of eachother and then just dismantle one. The other will stay in the air and you can just put one back until you direct it perfectly at the portal. It took me only 3: 1 pointing the laser straight, one shooting up, and the last looking straight into the portal
That's not really a puzzle, that's just exploiting the lack of furniture physics. Which is why the OP is disappointed in the current implementation of the laser puzzle.
Originally posted by Monokuma:
Originally posted by Crochwhisle purple:
you can put laser redirectors ontop of eachother and then just dismantle one. The other will stay in the air and you can just put one back until you direct it perfectly at the portal. It took me only 3: 1 pointing the laser straight, one shooting up, and the last looking straight into the portal
That's not really a puzzle, that's just exploiting the lack of furniture physics. Which is why the OP is disappointed in the current implementation of the laser puzzle.
that is better than having to run around like a headless chicken, trying to find a couch to properly prop up all your stuff on. It`s atleast nice you aren`t missing out on a lot if you don`t do it.
LordXBlue Jun 11, 2024 @ 1:39pm 
Dude you are over complicating it, just literally stack two normal crafted storage containers right on top of each other and place them really close to the laser. After that just place the beam director on the literal side of the top container with the laser hitting it then lastly just rotate the device until it hits. It might take a few times to place them just right but you will get it. I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOVE SCIENCE!!!!!!
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Date Posted: Jun 6, 2024 @ 9:46pm
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