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(Also the sequel to VtMB is coming early next year... but who knows how it turns out)
If you liked they stories/mysteries behind people/interactions,interesting folklore/culture,the fight against an unseen enemy (plague in this case,although they sort of personified it),wondering"what ifs"&the choices matter issue...I'd suggest Pathologic.
&besides all the things I love (&dont) about the Pathologic,the 2nd remake comes with a difficulty slider for all kinds of things,so U can adjust it exactly as you want instead of trusting the Devs know what your personal"regular','east/story"and"hard"modes would.
If you liked the stories/mysteys behind people/interactions,interesting folklore/culture,the fight against an unseen enemy (plague in this case,although they sort of personified it),wondering"what ifs"&the choices matter issue...I'd suggest Pathologic
&besides all the things I love (&dont) about the Pathologic,the 2nd remake comes with a difficulty slider for all kinds of things,so U can adjust it exactly as you want instead of trusting the Devs know what your personal"regular','east/story"and"hard"modes would.
It caught on slowly by word of mouth,& eventually enough heard of it &begged to at least et a remake of the 25 yr old game for a wider language audience.A GoFundMe was started &they got enough to do not only that,but also remake/re-create the game.So there are actually 2 pathological games,the original,(Pathologic HD) &the helpfully named"Pathologic 2'- a"revisioning"/ recreation of the original has expanded story,great graphics,more quests etc.After you play one character,you can play another- their paths cross,so when one character has to do something,the other character may see it &this can alter their relationships,as well as how locals in the town treat you.So very choices matter &also characters"interactions- not just NPC like in Vampyre,but the 3 characters you can play (or will be able to when the new episodes for the new re-created game comes out (currently it is just Haruspex,but still excellent &I cant wait for the next 2!
Both Vampyr &both Patholoic HD & 2 are mostly open worlds with a story line to follow- although you are free to take or reject side quests &the like.An interesting thing I recall from interviews w/the devs is that DontNod said that according to a study,most players play to be good guys/heros,even if they dont have to...thus,some of what is in Vampyr that throws people,the game WANTS you to make a bad choice &then Ohno how to fix this,when increasing powerful monsters after & guards are coming...its supposed to WANT you to eat people to"win"the game without endless grinding,Meanwhile,the Devs from IcePick Lodge said that most people are about winning the game....yet you actually do better if you'fail"at pathologic at least a few times....it gives you alot more insight into what is goin on (&you will always be able to come back,just like in Vampyr,but some of your vitals bars will be a little shorter.There are no"monsters"in Pathologic,at least not like in Vampyre (there are some inhuman creatures though important to the game.
BTW,both the Vampyr &Patholoic games have the the main enemy being a plague of some kind.Both have lots of NPCS,some with interesting stories,&whose lives are intertwined so that if you hurt person X,person Y miht be pretty pissed at you & do soemthing to get back...There are street fights but full disclosure,you have either a butcher knife or a surgical scaple as a weapon,or your fists...no one levels up (at least on not the terrified,starvin,under-lockdown citizens....the national guard comes in thouh eventually,&you get to help them so say in deciding how the fight the plague to keep it from spreading.Anyway your character isnt a street fighter,so do it only if/when absolutely needed,dodge alot (where'd I hear that before)and/or get out of there A FAST That said,hardly Aanyone ever complains about the messed up fihting...it just isnt the point of the game,&the fans know this.
Pathologic has IMHO better writing &choices (less amusing puns that Vampyr though,but that may be due to it being first written in Russian,as there are russian puns in it).Pathologic (both versions) take place on the Russian or mongolian (or someplace around there) steppe in an old town- set around 1900-1910ish (so not far off from DR Reid's time)...however,they mix-match things as they feel like if it seems like it improves the scenes- for example,Art Nouveau Artwork that wouldnt become popular for some time later,gass street lights (in a non-name tiny villae in the middle of nowhere in pre or post USSR...Nonetheless,most agree the mix-n-match time period material keeps it both,anchored in the past,yet not STUCK in it,to become"untimely"after people loose their interest in the time period.The lore in Patholoic is very extensively thought out &takes a bit from central & eastern european,mongolia,etc.
Saving- you can save at various check in points at any time; there are also some cheats you can access by pressing the right kepys/buttons,so that you can can save from anyplace in the world,request food if you are starving,etc & as said,there's difficulty sliders so you can customise the game to your prefrences.
As in ANY game,there are going to be things I like/don't like,would change if I could etc Over all,I like Vampyre.I see lotsI'd fix or change,but they do not get me upset.If they remade Vampyre or made a sequel,I would really hope they look at IcePick Lodge's approach to it- IMHO they really got most things right,fixing what players complained of,expanding the lore they couldnt fit into the first game,& expanding the types of choices/options/ethins you can do to handle situations.Persoanlly i could care less if they'improved"the street fighting,since i dont play for that,& its not really what the game is about.
If you choose to try either version of Pathologic (HD or #2),then I would say,start with HD (origianal that was remasterd with language barriers fixed) *IF* you do not mind"old school"style games or graphics.If you think that'd turn you off,then start with Pathologic 2 which is the newly're-imagined"one.you do NOT have to have played the first one to play the sedcond.If you want to know more about the 1st game,without playing it,I'd sugest reading the 3 part link below,and/or looking g/for play-thrus on youtube etc.Its just 2 different experiences- in one,you know the story line,you know more about the other characters (that will get their own games in the future) etc.But jump into the more recent re-imagined game,& everything is wonderfully new- new an strange & lots of other things I cant think of words for atm.Some who played the 1st say they are jealous of those coming to play the new Pathologic 2 without the experiene of the 1st because it is so well done they wish they could experience it for the 1st time too.
If you liked they stories/mysteries behind people/interactions,interesting folklore/culture,the fight against an unseen enemy (plague in this case,although they sort of personified it),wondering"what ifs"&the choices matter issue...I'd suggest Pathologic.
&besides all the things I love (&dont) about the Pathologic,the 2nd remake comes with a difficulty slider for all kinds of things,so U can adjust it exactly as you want instead of trusting the Devs know what your personal"regular','east/story"and"hard"modes would.
If you liked the stories/mysteys behind people/interactions,interesting folklore/culture,the fight against an unseen enemy (plague in this case,although they sort of personified it),wondering"what ifs"&the choices matter issue...I'd suggest Pathologic
&besides all the things I love (&dont) about the Pathologic,the 2nd remake comes with a difficulty slider for all kinds of things,so U can adjust it exactly as you want instead of trusting the Devs know what your personal"regular','east/story"and"hard"modes would.
It caught on slowly by word of mouth,& eventually enough heard of it &begged to at least et a remake of the 25 yr old game for a wider language audience.A GoFundMe was started &they got enough to do not only that,but also remake/re-create the game.So there are actually 2 pathological games,the original,(Pathologic HD) &the helpfully named"Pathologic 2'- a"revisioning"/ recreation of the original has expanded story,great graphics,more quests etc.After you play one character,you can play another- their paths cross,so when one character has to do something,the other character may see it &this can alter their relationships,as well as how locals in the town treat you.So very choices matter &also characters"interactions- not just NPC like in Vampyre,but the 3 characters you can play (or will be able to when the new episodes for the new re-created game comes out (currently it is just Haruspex,but still excellent &I cant wait for the next 2!
Both Vampyr &both Patholoic HD & 2 are mostly open worlds with a story line to follow- although you are free to take or reject side quests &the like.An interesting thing I recall from interviews w/the devs is that DontNod said that according to a study,most players play to be good guys/heros,even if they dont have to...thus,some of what is in Vampyr that throws people,the game WANTS you to make a bad choice &then Ohno how to fix this,when increasing powerful monsters after & guards are coming...its supposed to WANT you to eat people to"win"the game without endless grinding,Meanwhile,the Devs from IcePick Lodge said that most people are about winning the game....yet you actually do better if you'fail"at pathologic at least a few times....it gives you alot more insight into what is goin on (&you will always be able to come back,just like in Vampyr,but some of your vitals bars will be a little shorter.There are no"monsters"in Pathologic,at least not like in Vampyre (there are some inhuman creatures though important to the game.
BTW,both the Vampyr &Patholoic games have the the main enemy being a plague of some kind.Both have lots of NPCS,some with interesting stories,&whose lives are intertwined so that if you hurt person X,person Y miht be pretty pissed at you & do soemthing to get back...There are street fights but full disclosure,you have either a butcher knife or a surgical scaple as a weapon,or your fists...no one levels up (at least on not the terrified,starvin,under-lockdown citizens....the national guard comes in thouh eventually,&you get to help them so say in deciding how the fight the plague to keep it from spreading.Anyway your character isnt a street fighter,so do it only if/when absolutely needed,dodge alot (where'd I hear that before)and/or get out of there A FAST That said,hardly Aanyone ever complains about the messed up fihting...it just isnt the point of the game,&the fans know this.
Pathologic has IMHO better writing &choices (less amusing puns that Vampyr though,but that may be due to it being first written in Russian,as there are russian puns in it).Pathologic (both versions) take place on the Russian or mongolian (or someplace around there) steppe in an old town- set around 1900-1910ish (so not far off from DR Reid's time)...however,they mix-match things as they feel like if it seems like it improves the scenes- for example,Art Nouveau Artwork that wouldnt become popular for some time later,gass street lights (in a non-name tiny villae in the middle of nowhere in pre or post USSR...Nonetheless,most agree the mix-n-match time period material keeps it both,anchored in the past,yet not STUCK in it,to become"untimely"after people loose their interest in the time period.The lore in Patholoic is very extensively thought out &takes a bit from central & eastern european,mongolia,etc.
Saving- you can save at various check in points at any time; there are also some cheats you can access by pressing the right kepys/buttons,so that you can can save from anyplace in the world,request food if you are starving,etc & as said,there's difficulty sliders so you can customise the game to your prefrences.
As in ANY game,there are going to be things I like/don't like,would change if I could etc Over all,I like Vampyre.I see lotsI'd fix or change,but they do not get me upset.If they remade Vampyre or made a sequel,I would really hope they look at IcePick Lodge's approach to it- IMHO they really got most things right,fixing what players complained of,expanding the lore they couldnt fit into the first game,& expanding the types of choices/options/ethins you can do to handle situations.Persoanlly i could care less if they'improved"the street fighting,since i dont play for that,& its not really what the game is about.
If you choose to try either version of Pathologic (HD or #2),then I would say,start with HD (origianal that was remasterd with language barriers fixed) *IF* you do not mind"old school"style games or graphics.If you think that'd turn you off,then start with Pathologic 2 which is the newly're-imagined"one.you do NOT have to have played the first one to play the sedcond.If you want to know more about the 1st game,without playing it,I'd sugest reading the 3 part link below,and/or looking g/for play-thrus on youtube etc.Its just 2 different experiences- in one,you know the story line,you know more about the other characters (that will get their own games in the future) etc.But jump into the more recent re-imagined game,& everything is wonderfully new- new an strange & lots of other things I cant think of words for atm.Some who played the 1st say they are jealous of those coming to play the new Pathologic 2 without the experiene of the 1st because it is so well done they wish they could experience it for the 1st time too.
Here are the links, they didnt fit in above post....
From an article on the introduction of the re-created game (patholic 2)
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/06/24/pathologic-2-has-the-best-intro-ive-played-all-year/
& one more on the latest version of it: