The relationship between Johnathan and Elisabeth

[Amphidex]

Now I am in the middle of chapter 4, and for some reason when I went to talk with Elisabeth she always calls him "beloved" or something of sort. Is this an error? They act like they are already established as a romantic relationship, but so far neither acknowledged that they feel that way. Obviously you can tell there is some attration, but it feels like they skipped steps and decides not to show how they became that way. They might advance their confessions to eachother later, but so far it's like they already have, and there was zero development. (Also I know the way the talk/address people back then, but I highly doubt she'd call him her beloved if they werent already in a relationship) It really bothers me, because it feels like they just jumped and cut out portions on the character development. Is this an error? Is that dialouge supposed to be for later in the story?

[Luciella]

Its not an error. Well it is, an error of writing, it happened to me the same way, they went from a professional and distant relationship to call themselves beloved and love and yada yada. the supposed confesion came when he saw how "fast" her heart was beating for him (wtf?) after they talked for the first time in her house.
It's the worst relationship development I have seen in years and it's shallow.

*Start of Mild Spoilers*
At the end she confeses to him that she had loved him since the first time she saw him trying to rescue the father. She is a very very old vampire and he is just a newborn....so why the hell she is suddenly so head over heals for a newborn unknown vamp?. Im sure she has seen many.
Maybe she has an oedipus thing going on.....
*End of Mild spoilers*

I just think they rusehd that part....a part that shouldnt be rushed since it's primordial to the endings.

[The Tempted Man]

The ♥♥♥♥♥♥ writing in this game is on par with shonen animes and jrpgs.

[Wrath]

The writing in this game is fantastic (by game standards) but the yes, the romance was handled poorly. Perhaps the weakest element.

[[Countess]Vol†z]

This is one of the meny gripes I have with the story. I don't know if they ran out of funding half way through story development or what but after the cemetary the game's good plot falls off a cliff. I was disappointed in the reveal of Jonathan's maker and that a lot of their explanations lead to being answered with"blood voodoo magic ooooo." and the romance felt WAY too awkward. And I'm the kind of woman who is all over vampire romance (other than twillight).

[Udra]

I don't think it is as bad as you all say. There are few articles that explain why it actually is good romance and should be used as an example. (One would be https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/vampyr-raised-the-bar-for-video-game-romance/)
I haven't finished the game yet and just got to the invitation part to her house but I can already see a lot of development. A lot of the immortals seem to be really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in this game haha and the thinking they have is just craving for power. And Jonathan is not like that. He fights that and if you play the no embrace walkthrough it even makes more sense why the lady is interested in him.
Don't say that there might not be any mistakes in the writing as I said haven't finished the game but overall it was not - couple of talks and sex scene.

[Alumno Superstes]

I would like to boink that gal.

[Al]

Originally posted by Udra:

I don't think it is as bad as you all say. There are few articles that explain why it actually is good romance and should be used as an example. (One would be https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/vampyr-raised-the-bar-for-video-game-romance/)....
Don't say that there might not be any mistakes in the writing as I said haven't finished the game but overall it was not - couple of talks and sex scene.

I definitly noticed the 2nd point above, but I did not think of the 1st, which the link describes in more detail.

Whether one agrees or not on the quality of the romance, it is an interesting POV for a gamer, or a game-maker. Thanks for sharing.

[Al]

Originally posted by Udra:

I don't think it is as bad as you all say. There are few articles that explain why it actually is good romance and should be used as an example. (One would be https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/vampyr-raised-the-bar-for-video-game-romance/)

NOt sure if this is related to the above POV or not, but I did notice that there are subtle differences in the characters interactions depending on your game play (that is, how many NPCs you have fed on (which then determines the ending))

For example...

There is a scene where Jonathan walks in on Elizabeth just after she has fed on a patient who would have died soon anyway, in a tent, just outside the hospital. In my first run (London Burning- eat everyone!), The corpse was sprawled on the ground with blood around it, the furniture and supplies/items/belongings was a mess- I forget specifically what the stuff was but they were strewn around etc- possibly indicating either her expressing self-disgust by having a tantrum/knocking over things in the surroundings... or doing it to 'hide'the true cause of death, making it look like a struggle/murder.... or perhaps there was in fact a struggle (just because someone WANTS to die, doesnt mean it will happen gracefully,). .

On my second run (not a nibble / 0 NPCs fed on), when Jonathan finds Elizabeth in that same situation, nothing is in disarray, and the body has a sheet over it, as one would expect done to anyone who had died of any cause, until it was removed..

There were other expamples I noticed while I was playing, but forget ATM, but the devs did put some effort into making some scenes / dialogues changes to reflect how the relationship is progressing / affect the respective characters.