What NPC's are "safe" to feed/kill?

[Justin_760]

Anyone know of NPC's that are irrelevant to the story or provide no services, trade, quests or otherwise? Ive been conflicted on who to feed from. So far I havent done so on any NPC's, but only because the combat is too easy to justify the tradeoff for XP.

[just.dont.do.it]

Originally posted by natty4505:

mobs give you hardly any xp

5XP times 20 is a hundred, times 200 is a thousand. One enemy doesn't give much, but you'll be killing in dozens, not one by one.

[Justin_760]

Originally posted by just.dont.do.it:

Originally posted by Lozzle:

Can you feed without killing and still get the benefit of some blood like in Bloodlines? If you can only kill outright then picking targets will be hard...

The game has infinite XP via respawning enemies. Which, of course, in a typical "game hypocrisy for the sake of gameplay" fashion you can (and likely will) murder in at least hundreds without any reprecussions whatsoever.
The choice between "not killing NPCs but being weak" and "killing NPCs and being strong" is a largely false one. You can get however much XP you want, and it's not even particularly a grind.

Huh was wondering about this, so killing trash mobs has NO effect on region stability?

[AdicusDio]

I was at the safe house right before you get to the boat ride early on, and you can kill the 4 enemies in the building, loot them, then immediately go back and rest and they'll respawn after you exit the safe house. I did this about 8 times and it didn't affect the city nor the quest. Since you haven't met any important npc yet, nothing happens. Meaning if you want to grind early, do it before anything matters.

[Lozzle]

Originally posted by Escapist83:

Another warning: Even one feeding will change your appearance.

Wait I thought you looked worse the longer you went without feeding?

[AIntPJZ]

Im a vampire. I drinketh every bloodbag I needeth ! The problem is that my character is such a big ♥♥♥♥♥ and is a walking contradiction because of my choice * embracing my monster side *

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5d9BrLN5K4

[kesat]

Originally posted by Justin_760:

Huh was wondering about this, so killing trash mobs has NO effect on region stability?

None at all. Unlike e.g. Dishonored where killing enemies has an effect on the world it's not the case in Vampyr. Only civilian NPC are important for the story and overall world status.

On the other hand you could say killing the militia and monster is balancing each other out. At least killing lesser vampires should have a positive effect on the world ;) But to be honest: just don't think to much about it anyway. The hordes of monsters in the streets of london are unrealistic in the first place.

@OP
Every single NPC is related to one quest. But i'd say you are safe to feed on them (without breaking quests) as soon as you finished their quest. Looks like they are of no importance afterwards.

Take Clay Cox as an example: i wouldn't kill him after your arrival. But as soon as he got his knife back and you unlocked his (3?) traits there isn't any reason for him to stay alive - if you want to feed on people. Which is pretty much possible after the first rest in the hospital, because all his traits are easily unlocked.

[Lozzle]

Originally posted by Escapist83:

Originally posted by Lozzle:

Wait I thought you looked worse the longer you went without feeding?

Nope. Not in this universe apparently.

Makes no sense and makes not want to feed on anyone. And it better explain Ashbury and other vampires looking normal.

[kesat]

Originally posted by Lozzle:

Originally posted by Escapist83:

Nope. Not in this universe apparently.

Makes no sense and makes not want to feed on anyone. And it better explain Ashbury and other vampires looking normal.

I doubt that there's really any real in-lore explanation for this, esp. because mesmerize seems to be less of an in-lore feature but just a balancing mechanic forced into the lore.
But e.g. Ashbury is feeding on people who want to die. You are feeding on people against their free will.

[DrasticSkuba]

Your main issue will be their social circle and their impact on that district in general. Even if they don't affect the overall "story", they will have an impact on the hostility of the district. It's sort of cause-and-effect. You should do as many side quest investigations as possible for general XP and increasing their blood quality, then decide from there whether you think it's worth killing them off

[Keith 'Blood' Hanson]

To OP: None. Even feeding once will change your ending. If you are unconcerned about that...Hrm.

Certain chars. will go feral/stop providing services if you eat someone special in their circle. But not always.

From a gameplay point of view, the only character I've tested that will affect you gameplay wise is if you embrace Pippa, afterwords Milton will stop providing merchant services. I can assume the same happens if you devour the blind guy, his sister will do the same? Just guessing at this point.

[Deyvson]

It can be quite grindy, a single NPC can give you 3k or 4k in experience, while each enemy you kill will only give you 5 in experience. We need to kill 200 enemies to get a single 1k in experience, but it depends on your patience to do this. Since I spent a lot of time getting the clues to know the NPCs and boost my XP, I saw no reason not to kill them. The few good and innocent NPCs were related to bad people, and if we killed the bad people the good ones would suffer. Like the mother that abused her daughter, the thug that were a criminal to feed his son, the charlatan sister that sold false medicine to feed her blind brother...

Normally it's better to kill the whole family, since if we let only one alive that one might be lost for some other reason, since they wouldn't be taken care anymore or have no reason to stay in the city. And combat in this game can be very punishing or incredibly easy depending on how much time you spend talking to NPCs and killing them afterwards. To keep myself to the same level of the enemies I had to kill a big portion of NPCs, so I imagine that people that want to keep the districts healthy would spend a lot of time killing thugs and skals in the streets, which is possible to do.

I also didn't know the "Pillar of The Community" dynamic, so I killed the first one the first time I had a choice, since she had discovered about vampires, or at least discovered a vampire woman was killing people and I though it was dangerous to let her alive. We also kill our own sister as the first victim, so after all that I didn't see much reason to not kill other NPCs, even more because they were not very likable in the first place. In the end I left the rich people alive because they were the ones that knew me personally and because they were the last I had contact, when I didn't need experience anymore. I started killing based on moral choices, but in the end it was purely pragmatic. I didn't finish the game yet, but probably I will get a bad ending of sorts.

[Simpson3k]

The reason to not kill any citzen is the "no embrace" achievement.