Failed to save citizen because of OP foe

[roninbernie]

So I was trying to get to the West End when I stumbled upon the quest of saving Kimura from an abduction. However, I couldn't save him because the Ekon was 10 levels above me and I couldn't do anything to defend myself. How is this fair? We can travel anywhere in the game if we wish it but that doesn't mean we can take on every unique foe that just pops up.

[neutrino]

Originally posted by roninbernie:

Originally posted by Baron:

Er...I feel like I'm missing something here. Can someone explain what a parry is in this game? Its one of the things I was most upset was missing, that there's only evade/dodge and no parry.

It's first introduced when you pick up the scythe in the early part of the game, before fighting William Bishop. As your first 2-handed weapon the game will explain the use of parry. It's easy to miss because it's not necessary to use 2-handed against William Bishop.

I read that tutorial screen just two minutes ago (on my 2nd play-through now), and in no way does it explain how to parry. All the tutorial pop-up cites is that "it can be used to parry." Okay. Great. But HOW?!?!?!

On my first play-through, not once could I get Dr. Reid to parry an attack. LMB did an attack, and the RMB did the normal stun secondary attack. My conclusion is that like with switching targets, it's just plain broken for KB&M players.

[James]

Originally posted by Lord_of_Death:

only died 2 times so far in 35+ hrs

sounds like you just facerolled your way through the game then

[Mimots_the_Jellyfish]

If you want to play no kill, you NEED to be carefull where you go to and pick your battles well.
But even with that those are not the only thing you need to do ; be carefull with your build, Dodge as much as you can, UPGRADE YOUR WEAPONS (and don't forget to take at least one that have blood absorbtion) Alway have serum.AND DO ALL THE SIDE QUEST those are the main way for you to get XP without killing citizen!

You can fight without parry if you are fast enought at dodging you can also invest in the blood shield if you need to.
Ah and : Please upgrade your stamina, you'll need it.

[Vold]

When I was still level 4 I explored penbrooke and the docks.

Met Griffin lvl 16, took a while but manage to win. Using the saw and stake, only skill I got is bite drain blood more and claw attack.

Winning round:
https://youtu.be/pAHvI8O5MPI

Later I upgraded the saw to draw blood, upg weapons don’t require sleep or xp, just parts. With this, I manage to save a citizen in the docks from 3 Skals and later beat 5x skals at once.

[James]

Originally posted by Vold:

When I was still level 4 I explored penbrooke and the docks.

Met Griffin lvl 16, took a while but manage to win. Using the saw and stake, only skill I got is bite drain blood more and claw attack.

Winning round:
https://youtu.be/pAHvI8O5MPI

Later I upgraded the saw to draw blood, upg weapons don’t require sleep or xp, just parts. With this, I manage to save a citizen in the docks from 3 Skals and later beat 5x skals at once.

yeah, if you make the mistake of exploring the game gets very hard out of nowhere and you have to start cheesing fights (as demonstrated by your video). Making sure you don't ever go off the main path makes the game WAY easier.

[Obi Hung Kenobi]

This happened to me as well and I restaretd my playthrough after * SPOILER ALERT*
embracing the pillar of whitechapel thinking it was a good option, it wasnt. The game is very vague in describing consequences of your words.
Same goes for the "open world" which gives zero warning as to if you should go there first, I have no problem with high level mobs in an area but I do have a problem with quest auto triggering while u explore said areas and then failing when u decide to level up

this dev team is indie, dont expect much, I finally beat the game and its long as hell n a bore once u get the best weapon in the game in chapter 5

I started skipping all the dialogue..the ending is just a cutscene which left a lot to be desired, you cannot go back n continue playing..thats it, gg. It sucks.


I might play it again just to murder everyone now that I did a pacifist run

but this game is like 7/10

[Raviel]

Originally posted by roninbernie:

I had already levelled my hp and stam to the fourth tier when I faced that Ekon. But that's okay. I think I can stop trying to save everybody in this game. England will prevail.

Thats your problem.
I had lvl 8 on both by time i got to west end.
You can't blame this on open world balance, you can't enter that area without finishing appropriate main quests. If you got there you should be there.
Be sure to get lvl 5 update for your weapon. Anything lower is too weak for the area.

The whole saving people part is about difficulty and achievement. It is supposed to be harder that way. Storywise many of the people there would be better of dead.
I guess they tried to teach that no matter how bad someone is, you shouldn't be judge and executioner.

[THAC0]

Originally posted by kesat:

That's actually the point about a open world game though. Sometimes if you take the wrong turn people might die (because the enemy is stronger than you).

But I'd guess that you had quite a lot of XP to spent too?

[MaebeKnot]

I really wish people would stop calling this game open world. The world is not open, it is a maze that unlocks alternative paths the more you play. You are only at this Ekon because you progressed far enough in the story to get into that part of town.

In what world is an enemy 10 levels higher then you winning the fight unfair?! He is stronger than you. So either play better/smarter, keep getting your butt kicked or close the level gap.

When I first ran into two Ekons I almost got killed. Had to run to healing and re-engage. The specific guy you are talking about is fighting alone. If you git gud you will finish him off. He was about 10 times my level also since I have yet to embrace anymore.

[Vold]

Originally posted by James:

Originally posted by Vold:

When I was still level 4 I explored penbrooke and the docks.

Met Griffin lvl 16, took a while but manage to win. Using the saw and stake, only skill I got is bite drain blood more and claw attack.

Winning round:
https://youtu.be/pAHvI8O5MPI

Later I upgraded the saw to draw blood, upg weapons don’t require sleep or xp, just parts. With this, I manage to save a citizen in the docks from 3 Skals and later beat 5x skals at once.

yeah, if you make the mistake of exploring the game gets very hard out of nowhere and you have to start cheesing fights (as demonstrated by your video). Making sure you don't ever go off the main path makes the game WAY easier.

Actually exploring is fine if we still sleep on other beds to upgrade. But I hear there’s other consequences for that “timing”

So I chose not to until the story say so. :D

But if we just sleep and upgrade, u can explore up to level. As u can see I’ve gathered lots of xp just by looking around ready to be used.

[Wyrtt]

Another filthy casual who chose to play hardest route and than came whining about game being hard,

Your lvl means almost nothing, Your dmg depends purely on weapon upgrades By the time you reach West end you can upgrade any weapon to lvl 5 aka reach max dmg,

Vamp attack skills are mostly useless dmg wise unless we talk about super move which you should already have so using exp on them is a bad choice,
Vamp defence skills are your friends. Being able to soak 3 hit combo wins any fight,

Rest are passive skills, Ammo and meds capasity are waste of exp. Same goes for bite and blood unless you play 1h build as 2h axe draws blood without any need to waste time of stunning and biting,

Max hp and fatigue upgrades are really the only ones that make you stronger in terms of raw combat power,

Honestly there is no need to embrace anyone, Game has just few usefull skills to focus on, On lvl 27 I dont even know what to do with rest of exp,

[MermaidLotus]

Originally posted by Raviel:

Originally posted by roninbernie:

I had already levelled my hp and stam to the fourth tier when I faced that Ekon. But that's okay. I think I can stop trying to save everybody in this game. England will prevail.

Thats your problem.
I had lvl 8 on both by time i got to west end.
You can't blame this on open world balance, you can't enter that area without finishing appropriate main quests. If you got there you should be there.
Be sure to get lvl 5 update for your weapon. Anything lower is too weak for the area.

The whole saving people part is about difficulty and achievement. It is supposed to be harder that way. Storywise many of the people there would be better of dead.
I guess they tried to teach that no matter how bad someone is, you shouldn't be judge and executioner.

I didn't save someone because I was actually able to enter an area with overpowered enemies. There are tons of areas where the level alone is the deterrent from progressing further. But in that area, I just happened to not be using vampire sight so I didn't see the enemies' levels until they were aggroed. Sure, it's a rookie mistake, but the citizen event was triggered as soon as I was in the vicinity. That man died because I had to sleep to evolve and become stronger. There are flaws in this game design and it's okay to point them out and still enjoy the game.

[Simple Kind of Man]

Originally posted by MermaidLotus:

Originally posted by Raviel:

Thats your problem.
I had lvl 8 on both by time i got to west end.
You can't blame this on open world balance, you can't enter that area without finishing appropriate main quests. If you got there you should be there.
Be sure to get lvl 5 update for your weapon. Anything lower is too weak for the area.

The whole saving people part is about difficulty and achievement. It is supposed to be harder that way. Storywise many of the people there would be better of dead.
I guess they tried to teach that no matter how bad someone is, you shouldn't be judge and executioner.

I didn't save someone because I was actually able to enter an area with overpowered enemies. There are tons of areas where the level alone is the deterrent from progressing further. But in that area, I just happened to not be using vampire sight so I didn't see the enemies' levels until they were aggroed. Sure, it's a rookie mistake, but the citizen event was triggered as soon as I was in the vicinity. That man died because I had to sleep to evolve and become stronger. There are flaws in this game design and it's okay to point them out and still enjoy the game.

https://youtu.be/BwSts2s4ba4