Bus Simulator 16 or OMSI 2

[Xuenoz]

HELP

[JakDan]

Bus simulator 18 comes out on the 13th June. Much better choice.

[Potter]

Цитата допису JakDan:

Bus simulator 18 comes out on the 13th June. Much better choice.

But this will have a 3rd party DRM which is Denuvo. Apparently will it affect the game badly? There's a review about it and it's not a positive one though

[JakDan]

I was part of the beta testing and the game looked good, and ran good. Yes Denuvo, if it indeed is included, and only affects those scums that want to obtain stuff for free.

[rocky28965]

Цитата допису JakDan:

I was part of the beta testing and the game looked good, and ran good. Yes Denuvo, if it indeed is included, and only affects those scums that want to obtain stuff for free.

How do they feel to drive?
Any other sim you would compare them too?

[Potter]

Цитата допису JakDan:

I was part of the beta testing and the game looked good, and ran good. Yes Denuvo, if it indeed is included, and only affects those scums that want to obtain stuff for free.

Compared to Bus Sim 16 how do u feel about the successor? I'm considering to buy Bus Sim 18 when it's released. Initially didn't want to but after learning that Denuvo will not be of any harm to me, I changed my mind.

[Kosmozuikis]

Fernbus has denuvo too(or maybe it had until it got cracked, but it's listed as a denuvo game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denuvo#List_of_games_using_Denuvo). Denuvo doesn't affect the user it only affects the developers because it costs money and has no impact on pirates so it's a waste.
Fernbus uses UE4 and look at it, it doesn't look good and runs very poorly. Maybe BS18 devs are more compentent so lets hope they will use the engine better.

[rocky28965]

From looking at some of the short videos of it, it looks more like an arcade than a sim.

[JakDan]

What gives you that impression? Because apart from a few teaser trailers that's all really. Unless you are looking at "Bus Driver Simulator 18" or "City bus driver 18" both entirely different arcade style game. Bus Simulator 18 is the one to look at, but as said, only teaser trailers at the moment.

Think of Bus Simulator 16 but with UE4 graphics, much improved FFB physics. Much larger map. Other buses driving on the routes and giving you a friendly flash of headlights as they go past.

anyway as this is the Fernbus forum and they have their own Bus Simulator in developmet I will refrain from any more posts.

[rocky28965]

Yeah I thought it was a bit odd to be discussing on here.

[TwinShadow]

Цитата допису Kosmozuikis:

Fernbus has denuvo too(or maybe it had until it got cracked, but it's listed as a denuvo game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denuvo#List_of_games_using_Denuvo). Denuvo doesn't affect the user it only affects the developers because it costs money and has no impact on pirates so it's a waste.

I'm not going to go into a lot of details, but "true cracks" of Denuvo hardly exist. Actually, many of them are simply just bypasses because the DRM functions are still in the game EXE itself. They are just subverted to point to something else or whatever.

I've already tried the bypass of Fernbus even after I bought it because I was testing something. Still runs like crap like it does now, even on a legit copy.

On another note, Denuvo, though not in all cases, can cause its own issues with performance. Just look up various news stories when it was found that devs are implementing it so stupidly that the DRM is making hundreds of thousands of calls per second while playing a game. This is very rare, but has happened.

Цитата допису Kosmozuikis:

Fernbus uses UE4 and look at it, it doesn't look good and runs very poorly. Maybe BS18 devs are more compentent so lets hope they will use the engine better.

Still Alive Studios I'm still just keeping an eye on. I did like Bus Sim 16, I found it a fairly decent game for what its worth. The AI is no better than Fernbus, though at least in there they don't gridlock themselves so easily unlike in Fernbus where if you have 40% traffic, it will gridlock eventually leaving you stranded.

I'm not pleased with their switch to UE4 where I found their work on Unity was pretty well-done for what its worth. But, I will wait until I can at least try for myself before I hold a final opinion. But at the moment, their inclusion of Denuvo has already lessened its value to me, as a gamer, by at least 50%, so it'll probably be some time before I consider picking it up.

[TwinShadow]

I'm just flat Anti-DRM in all forms as it serves no other purpose than to harm a legitimate consumer. DRM-Free titles are.. well.. free of arbitruary killing of authentication servers in the event they go dead at some point; this effectively kills your access to certain games when this does happen.

Those servers don't last forever. Nor do companies.

[JakDan]

Цитата допису Fennec-san 【天狐】:

I'm just flat Anti-DRM in all forms as it serves no other purpose than to harm a legitimate consumer. DRM-Free titles are.. well.. free of arbitruary killing of authentication servers in the event they go dead at some point; this effectively kills your access to certain games when this does happen.

Those servers don't last forever. Nor do companies.

Nor do humans, and been reading these kind of doom and gloom quotes for the last 10 years or so.

[TwinShadow]

Doesn't change the fact that it can happen.

[TwinShadow]

You do realize that some of this so-called "moaning" actually does cause shifts in the gaming industry? If people don't take a stand, developers can, and do, trample over their own playerbases. Just look at EA, or Ubisoft, or whatever other developer out there. They can get away with it because people DON'T TAKE A STAND anymore and simply just take it without lube in the rear end. But hey, if that's your shtick, who am I to complain?

[TwinShadow]

All DRM does is cause issues for legit consumers. GOG provides games free of DRM and its doing perfectly fine. Its just a wasteful spending on unnecessary resources that are better spent making the actual product better which has long since been lost on developers these days. (some exceptions apply)