Willpower->rage transfer

[mamazing1]

I don't get this mechanic. Staves and most caster gear have a +x% time reduction from willpower->rage. Catalysts have -x% time reduction from willpower-> rage. Would the increase in the time reduction from willpower -> rage mean that it would flow back quicker when willpower is depleted and the opposite for a -x%? Does anyone know how this is meant to work?

[Matthiasa]

It is the rate at which spent willpower turns into rage. An increase in time reduction means there is an increase in the amount of unusable points for willpower or rage at any given time.

Example :
If you have 100 willpower to rage conversion a second and you spent 500 it would take 5 seconds to transfer the spent willpower to rage.
-50% would lead 50 willpower to rage a second and 10 seconds to transfer
+50% would lead to 150 willpower to rage a second and 3.3 seconds to transfer

Given how potions are currently working it isn't to much of an issue until the mobs start having high hp relative to damage output.

[Cpt_Weisemann]

This willpower to rage mechanic is the only thing I don't like in this game. I can't understand why they didn't make classic mana/rage mechanic, where they don't convert into each other.

[Powered by Tears ®]

I'm one of those 'stats' people who like to dig into mechanics and know specifics about them, however I found this mechanic to work well and I didn't feel I had to know much at all about it -- it just works once you get the hang of balancing it.

[Hallowedsoul08]

You could make a mage like battle warrior that utilized both rage and willpower if you wanted to. Two skills that uses willpower, two skills that uses rage.

[GreatPalm]

Originally posted by Darkedone02:

You could make a mage like battle warrior that utilized both rage and willpower if you wanted to. Two skills that uses willpower, two skills that uses rage.

but you cannot cast with melee and cannot use melee skills with caster items

[Stratigamo]

Originally posted by GreatPalm:

Originally posted by Darkedone02:

You could make a mage like battle warrior that utilized both rage and willpower if you wanted to. Two skills that uses willpower, two skills that uses rage.

but you cannot cast with melee and cannot use melee skills with caster items

But you can use a catalyst and 1h sword at the same time so you can use both warrior and mage skills.

[Sohamkar]

Originally posted by Stratigamo:

Originally posted by GreatPalm:

but you cannot cast with melee and cannot use melee skills with caster items

But you can use a catalyst and 1h sword at the same time so you can use both warrior and mage skills.

I love this kind of hybrid build. This is great idea. But will this be viable for long term?

[Hallowedsoul08]

Originally posted by Sohamkar:

Originally posted by Stratigamo:

But you can use a catalyst and 1h sword at the same time so you can use both warrior and mage skills.

I love this kind of hybrid build. This is great idea. But will this be viable for long term?

It's too early right now to determine anything, have fun before you look though the meta for anything. As far as I know, your going to have fun with the many kinds of spells you want, and the melee abilities.

try one movement on both rage and willpower abilities, and two abilities that you want that are damaging. Either Aether Jump or Light bearer for willpower, Slayer's Flurry or Wings of Ishmir for rage costing, Any rage costing damage or any willpower costing damage, I could use anniliation or Solarfall for both willpower, anvil's woe or any other effective melee damage rage costing ability... imo will do great.

I'm going to try that out, See how Solarfall, Light Bearer, Wings of Ishmir, Anvil's Woe, and on my right mouse, Slayer's Flurry.

[Mykell]

Originally posted by Sohamkar:

Originally posted by Stratigamo:

But you can use a catalyst and 1h sword at the same time so you can use both warrior and mage skills.

I love this kind of hybrid build. This is great idea. But will this be viable for long term?

I'm using a thunderstrike/wrath of baapheth hybrid build and its lots of fun so far at lvl22. There are plenty of other abilities you can swap in an out around a hybrid build its almost too many choices lol.

[geronimo]

Originally posted by Sohamkar:

Originally posted by Stratigamo:

But you can use a catalyst and 1h sword at the same time so you can use both warrior and mage skills.

I love this kind of hybrid build. This is great idea. But will this be viable for long term?

I find personally that my mage with retaliator and fortress with heavy armour is doing more damage than my glass canon projectile one.

I’m using aether jump and the other teleport to get around and plunk myself in groups. Solar fall as main damage source. Bladestorm as my rage spender and does ok damage. Full though ness/resist spec and sacred damage to life leech (very important). The last skill I’m using is anomaly, which one shots trash packs and assembles everything nicely for a solar fall :)

The slow movement is annoying at times, but all the teleporting and brutal damage more than makes up for it.

[Lord Bullingdon]

Originally posted by Cpt_Weisemann:

This willpower to rage mechanic is the only thing I don't like in this game. I can't understand why they didn't make classic mana/rage mechanic, where they don't convert into each other.

Yeah I'm not into it at all and it's actually very limiting.

[Burgy]

I'm a newbie and only level 9, but I've found the one hand and catalyst fun. Goal is for a paladin or battlemage type. Have a toughness build with wings of ishmir for the movement, winters grasp for freezing enemies I'm around, and then bleeding edge and anvils woe for rage. They've been able to use the willpower and rage pretty effectively so far. Again, only level 9, but was fun to try out.

[Mr. Larsen]

Are there any 1handed weapon that generate Willpower?

[Plebeian Kilo]

Originally posted by Cpt_Weisemann:

This willpower to rage mechanic is the only thing I don't like in this game. I can't understand why they didn't make classic mana/rage mechanic, where they don't convert into each other.

I'm thinking its to make hybrid builds viable? IDK, to be honest.

[Zantetsuken]

Originally posted by KingKilo:

Originally posted by Cpt_Weisemann:

This willpower to rage mechanic is the only thing I don't like in this game. I can't understand why they didn't make classic mana/rage mechanic, where they don't convert into each other.

I'm thinking its to make hybrid builds viable? IDK, to be honest.

They did it so you can be free to use more weapons. I've been playing with a lvl 90 character and there simply isn't enough Willpower to spam abilities without normal attacking to reset your rage. Normal attacking means you are required to use staff on your pure mage because no other weapon gives you willpower on hit. Without hitting to regain willpower you have to wait for the extremely slow willpower regeneration as it transfers over from rage. Simply using a rage skill isn't enough because you can run out of both bars while they transfer into each other slowly. The catalyst helps the transfer speed tremendously while allowing you to use a physical weapon for rage usage. Without this hybrid of spells and weapons everyone would be spamming staff bolts to regain mana and magic would be extremely cookie cutter.