Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem

Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem

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Aleric Dec 17, 2022 @ 1:01pm
Game worth it for 10€?
Hello,
since the game is currently on a deep sale and costs 10€, is the game worth it for that price? Is it playable or why the hate on the game?
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GhastlyDreadful Dec 17, 2022 @ 2:00pm 
$12 USD for me. Not quite the $10 I was hoping for but has me tempted. I spent $24 on Last Epoch and didn't get much mileage out of it so mulling this one over.
きょすけ Dec 17, 2022 @ 3:26pm 
I've bought this game about a month ago, for 16 bucks and I still regret it. The game is full of bugs, but most than anything, they are planning to lower your characters and gear unlocked/found to 40, and reset your endgame progress in a few months, after the fourth chapter drops.

To me this is a huge FU and time spent down the drain if you ask me, and by reading the forum, this wasn't the first time they did something similar: considering that the game should be composed of 5 chapters, they will likely do the same AGAIN with the fifth chapter release.

The question is, are you ok with spending your free time with this game, knowing that the devs don't care about it and will wipe out your progress?

If you don't care about the wipe feel free to spend your money, otherwise look for something else like Chronicon.
Janediel Dec 17, 2022 @ 8:15pm 
Originally posted by きょすけ:
If you don't care about the wipe feel free to spend your money, otherwise look for something else like Chronicon.

TY for your breakdown. Will look in again when Chapter 5 drops *fingers crossed*
decizion Dec 17, 2022 @ 9:29pm 
At this price it's a steal tbh.
Game its good but something make this game its not good. Idontknow
Awesomer Dec 18, 2022 @ 12:08am 
Originally posted by decizion:
At this price it's a steal tbh.

yeah? how does it compare to diablo 2/3? warhammer 40k inquisitor, torchlite etc?
[O]Pallemiitti Dec 18, 2022 @ 12:37am 
This has been on my wishlist for quite a while now, but just because the mixed signals from players, even if it's ~10€, I'm still really hesitant to buy it. Just so many red flags to wave around, even though seen and read so many good reviews about it to counter balance the negativity. "Mixed" is really the review word I would use after combing through the community messages.
I think I just wait until it's part of some bundle and seeing the price development, I would not be surprised if it would happen next year.
(Let's see what happens to the price at 22nd when the Steam winter sale hits)

Edit: Got the game as a gift just a few moments ago. Going to check it out ASAP.
Last edited by [O]Pallemiitti; Dec 18, 2022 @ 1:50am
RetroGamingGalaxy Dec 18, 2022 @ 1:03am 
Based on what I gathered in the reviews... updates will delete your characters??? If this is true then the devs clearly don't respect people's time and for that reason even for $5 I wouldn't bother.
Bought after a friend ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about It, I was hesitant due to him and what I read, but so far, I'm really enjoying It, can do a lot worse for $12.
Ashyne Dec 18, 2022 @ 2:16am 
Just skip Wolcen and play Grim Dawn instead:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/219990/Grim_Dawn

It's (by far) the best game of this genre now.

Games like Diablo 2/3/4 and POE can't even compare with Grim Dawn because they artificially lengthen the games' lifespans by coercing you to create a new character to experience minor (or time-limited) content updates with each new Season/Ladder, making the player lose incentive to invest time and effort into playing any character. If you don't make a new character, with each new Season/Ladder, you'll only be left further behind.

Grim Dawn doesn't have any of that Season/Ladder crap. You can stick with a single character for the entirety of the game's existence and still experience all content. All additional content is either free or in post-game DLCs you can buy separately. You never lose your progress or have data wiped.

You never have to create a new character to experience any new content updates. You can fully invest in any one character and get the full worth of your time and effort even a decade later.

No in-game micro-transaction nonsense either (which POE and Diablo 4 have). No time-gated content forcing you to play for fear of missing out (FOMO).

Just look at the reviews: 93% Positive for All Reviews for the past 6+ years (since Full Release, and 9+ years since Early Access). Wolcen has only 56% Positive.

It also has between 3500-4500 online concurrent players at any one time. Compare that to Wolcen's measly 300-350.
Last edited by Ashyne; Dec 18, 2022 @ 4:34am
Hunter Dec 18, 2022 @ 2:28am 
Originally posted by OPallemiitti:
This has been on my wishlist for quite a while now, but just because the mixed signals from players, even if it's ~10€, I'm still really hesitant to buy it. Just so many red flags to wave around, even though seen and read so many good reviews about it to counter balance the negativity. "Mixed" is really the review word I would use after combing through the community messages.
I think I just wait until it's part of some bundle and seeing the price development, I would not be surprised if it would happen next year.
(Let's see what happens to the price at 22nd when the Steam winter sale hits)

Honestly, price may be higher, when winter sale hits.
Thats why im thinking about to buy it now.
The safe option is to buy now and to not install/play it. For a few days winter sale hits and it will be enough time to check the price, then keep it or refund it and buy again, if the price will be better (which I doubt, tbh).

Originally posted by OPallemiitti:
Edit: Got the game as a gift just a few moments ago. Going to check it out ASAP.

Yes, check it, please and share ur opinion/video/review.
Thanks in advance.
Originally posted by GhastlyDreadful:
$12 USD for me. Not quite the $10 I was hoping for but has me tempted. I spent $24 on Last Epoch and didn't get much mileage out of it so mulling this one over.

It is easily worth $12. The hugest problem I'm having is the save feature not working. It saves my characters, but not my progress. Oddly, I had made the same progress yesterday as today (I had to re-do what I lost), and today, the changes stayed. I stopped in the same place as yesterday.

So, just be prepared for stupidity regarding having to repeat some stuff multiple times.
きょすけ Dec 18, 2022 @ 5:14am 
Originally posted by Ashyne:
Just skip Wolcen and play Grim Dawn instead:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/219990/Grim_Dawn

It's (by far) the best game of this genre now.

Games like Diablo 2/3/4 and POE can't even compare with Grim Dawn because they artificially lengthen the games' lifespans by coercing you to create a new character to experience minor (or time-limited) content updates with each new Season/Ladder, making the player lose incentive to invest time and effort into playing any character. If you don't make a new character, with each new Season/Ladder, you'll only be left further behind.

Grim Dawn doesn't have any of that Season/Ladder crap. You can stick with a single character for the entirety of the game's existence and still experience all content. All additional content is either free or in post-game DLCs you can buy separately. You never lose your progress or have data wiped.

You never have to create a new character to experience any new content updates. You can fully invest in any one character and get the full worth of your time and effort even a decade later.

No in-game micro-transaction nonsense either (which POE and Diablo 4 have). No time-gated content forcing you to play for fear of missing out (FOMO).

Just look at the reviews: 93% Positive for All Reviews for the past 6+ years (since Full Release, and 9+ years since Early Access). Wolcen has only 56% Positive.

It also has between 3500-4500 online concurrent players at any one time. Compare that to Wolcen's measly 300-350.

THIS SO MUCH.

I'd also add this one:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/375480/Chronicon/

Game made by a single dev, don't let the graphic fool you, it has many QoL features, great classes, 4 skill tree for each of them and it's addicting as hell.


Originally posted by Zartudatu Gaming:
Based on what I gathered in the reviews... updates will delete your characters??? If this is true then the devs clearly don't respect people's time and for that reason even for $5 I wouldn't bother.

Rather than delete them, they will downgrade them to level 40, and do the same on your GEAR as well (imagine all the time spent to grind and min-max your equipment and then the middle finger comes), and last but not least wipe out all the endgame progress, and this isn't the first time they did this.

So yeah, if you respect your own life time, avoid it.
Originally posted by Awesomer:
Originally posted by decizion:
At this price it's a steal tbh.

yeah? how does it compare to diablo 2/3? warhammer 40k inquisitor, torchlite etc?
diablo 3 was awful, inquisitor WHO, and torchlight was good back in the days but thats about it
[O]Pallemiitti Dec 18, 2022 @ 9:27am 
After playing this for 3,5h, I give it a green light on my "bang for the buck" meter. I consider game a OK game if I can get 1h/1€. I can easily get +10h fun out of this and so far, there are only few very little gripes I would like to say aloud. Mainly just the a bit awkward item pickup that feels a little sluggish from time to time and really annoying "Hold Alt to show items on ground". Why on earth hasn't that been fixed to a "toggle show items in ground" as a QoL update since it has been request hundreds of times after the game has launched.
But yeah, for ~10€, I would buy this.

Of course there are plenty better games out there, but if you have managed to get bored basically all of them, this will scratch that ARPG itch nicely.
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