Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem

Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem

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FireDogy May 30, 2024 @ 10:52am
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Remember to refund.
They advertised and sold a product based on a multiplayer premise. They are now backing out of that agreement, which means you should be eligible for a refund regardless of your playtime.
To refund: Help -> Steam support - > Purchases - Wolcen
Remember to include this snippet in your refund request "Starting September 3, 2024, Wolcen will no longer support multiplayer functionality. Additionally, we will cease further development and support for the game. "
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Torinux May 30, 2024 @ 11:53am 
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I did as soon as I read the notice. Steam needs to change their refund policy as in the one on EPIC Store. The refund policy on Steam, is what allows :poop: like this to keep happening.
FireDogy May 30, 2024 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by TorinuxCthulhu:
I did as soon as I read the notice. Steam needs to change their refund policy as in the one on EPIC Store. The refund policy on Steam, is what allows :poop: like this to keep happening.
Indeed. They just denied my refund request but keep trying.
Spirit May 30, 2024 @ 12:10pm 
since i got it when it was still in open beta ... no refund for me
oh well
Ryu_Sheng May 30, 2024 @ 1:50pm 
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Seriously get over yourselves. They never promised online in perpetuity. Hell it’s lasted longer than some MMO’s
Amalgam May 30, 2024 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by Ryu_Sheng:
Seriously get over yourselves. They never promised online in perpetuity. Hell it’s lasted longer than some MMO’s

You have 18h played, go back to reality lol
Hanspiel May 30, 2024 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Amalgam:
Originally posted by Ryu_Sheng:
Seriously get over yourselves. They never promised online in perpetuity. Hell it’s lasted longer than some MMO’s

You have 18h played, go back to reality lol

And...you have 11.5. I don't know that you're really in the place to criticize. The original commenter has 30 hours and the Beta player has nearly 200 hours. It's pretty sad that people are so gun-ho to take advantage of the developers like this. How many AAA titles have shut down their servers and stopped supporting games entirely? These guys are at least making sure you can still play the original content you purchased. What do you think will happen to WoW, or Destiny 2, or even Diablo 4 if the publishers decide to shut down the servers? Do you think you'll get a refund? Hell no. When you bought the game it had multiplayer. It still has multiplayer and anyone purchasing it after today purchases it knowing it will not have multiplayer after September. The developer has done nothing wrong here. Ryu is correct: get over yourselves.
FireDogy May 30, 2024 @ 2:51pm 
Originally posted by Hanspiel:
Originally posted by Amalgam:

You have 18h played, go back to reality lol

And...you have 11.5. I don't know that you're really in the place to criticize. The original commenter has 30 hours and the Beta player has nearly 200 hours. It's pretty sad that people are so gun-ho to take advantage of the developers like this. How many AAA titles have shut down their servers and stopped supporting games entirely? These guys are at least making sure you can still play the original content you purchased. What do you think will happen to WoW, or Destiny 2, or even Diablo 4 if the publishers decide to shut down the servers? Do you think you'll get a refund? Hell no. When you bought the game it had multiplayer. It still has multiplayer and anyone purchasing it after today purchases it knowing it will not have multiplayer after September. The developer has done nothing wrong here. Ryu is correct: get over yourselves.
Yeah we got xx and xxx hours, and so what?
I did a solo run and was looking forward to run it with friends in autumn, and looking forward to playing the final act once they fix alllll the issues.

Hence why I will definitely argue that the devs broke their part of the bargain - Hence why we are entitled to (if not full refunds, partial compensation) for the product we purchased under a now false pretense. - Especially since steam offers plenty of p2p multiplayer functionalities that are quite easy for devs to set up with unreal and unity-based games.

So if you have valid contributions to the conversation, rather than guilt bait with no merit - then please share those instead.
Last edited by FireDogy; May 30, 2024 @ 2:51pm
Honestly, can't see anybody being able to get a refund of the game ending support or dropping multiplayer really. All games eventually end development and support, can't get refund for game being 'finished'.

It would be nice if they setup some sort of alternative system instead of their servers. A lot of newer APRGs seem to have separate single player and multi-player modes. Eventually the online server gets shut down and then there's no 'unsecure' alternative multiplayer available. You're not going to get a refund years after initial release of the product because multi-player server is shut down. At least they are apparently going to convert the online chars to offline mode so the characters aren't lost.

Haven't played online mode, only played offline mode so shut down doesn't impact me. Guess I'll create a char to get the online achievement done before they do so.
Traltwin May 30, 2024 @ 9:43pm 
Yeah I've requested a refund... we'll see.
GT May 30, 2024 @ 10:27pm 
Why the hell would I want a refund on something I purchased and enjoyed for 137 hours?
Hefutoxin May 30, 2024 @ 10:40pm 
Not a fan of how they changed the game from Alpha.

But you are not entitled to a refund. Asking for one due to this is just harassing Steam, not Wolcen.
Torinux May 30, 2024 @ 10:43pm 
Originally posted by Hanspiel:
Originally posted by Amalgam:

You have 18h played, go back to reality lol

And...you have 11.5. I don't know that you're really in the place to criticize. The original commenter has 30 hours and the Beta player has nearly 200 hours. It's pretty sad that people are so gun-ho to take advantage of the developers like this. How many AAA titles have shut down their servers and stopped supporting games entirely? These guys are at least making sure you can still play the original content you purchased. What do you think will happen to WoW, or Destiny 2, or even Diablo 4 if the publishers decide to shut down the servers? Do you think you'll get a refund? Hell no. When you bought the game it had multiplayer. It still has multiplayer and anyone purchasing it after today purchases it knowing it will not have multiplayer after September. The developer has done nothing wrong here. Ryu is correct: get over yourselves.
You know you can run games directly from the installation directory without even starting Steam client? Any time played won't be counted towards your total.

I have close to 10K hours of playtime in "The Slormancer" yet my Steam timer says less than 400.
Last edited by Torinux; May 30, 2024 @ 10:44pm
Darkness May 31, 2024 @ 4:11am 
Originally posted by Ryu_Sheng:
Seriously get over yourselves. They never promised online in perpetuity. Hell it’s lasted longer than some MMO’s
I only bought it because it was advertised as a co-op game.

They SHOULD instead implement a peer-2-peer multiplayer AT LEAST before moving out. All the netcode is there, they could pull it off it they wanted.

Also, their server-based multiplayer was ALWAYS pure garbage, never worked as it should, which was always the worst part of the game imo.

We should not be ok with devs doing this kind of thing, axing features of a game at will.

Hell, I'd be happy with an old school "direct IP connect" requiring port forward to work with no Steam integration to punch through, even... I'm not that hard to please.
Last edited by Darkness; May 31, 2024 @ 4:13am
DeadJericho May 31, 2024 @ 4:15am 
but.. i only play singleplayer.
ಠ_ಠ May 31, 2024 @ 7:47am 
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It's almost as if games aren't supported in perpetuity. How utterly shocking.

I don't understand modern gamers. Supremely entitled.

Originally posted by Darkness:
We should not be ok with devs doing this kind of thing, axing features of a game at will.
Yeah. Developers should be on the hook to pay for your fun forever! :spooky:
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