Chapter IV Lieutenants

[VeraelHasta]

Are they always level 65+? I got to chapter IV yesterday, I'm around lvl 45. I did some missions and Operations and the button to challenge a lieutenant came up. There wasn't any information about the difficulty, so I tried it. Out of nowhere all of the mobs were lvl 65. I didn't even manage to beat the yellow mob that spawned in one of the waves.

Are they supposed to be 20lvls above me?

[Yme]

Was curious about that as well. Managed to beat it and got like 3 levels from the encounter, but it was tight, especially as I was on zero deaths at that point.

[Erikkustrife]

I am on chapter 4 and the bosses are level 42 so deff not for me.

[Gamerzilla]

Are you playing with a freshly made character offline? If it is online, or you are using a legacy character, you WILL have problems :(

[VeraelHasta]

I'm playing with fresh online character. It surprised me that L:ieutenants do not scale with level like everything else does.

[Limp Squirrel]

I'm 48 staring act IV and also had lvl 65 lieutenants. Was wondering why u got wrecked so fast.

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by Squidcake:

I'm 48 staring act IV and also had lvl 65 lieutenants. Was wondering why u got wrecked so fast.

I have a melee block build. The yellow enemy was the guy that heals himself and has the attack with million white orbs flying away from him.
Sooo, pretty much my hard counter even on level if I'm not careful. And add to it a ton of demons etc and I had to run away all the time until my shield skill was back up.

[YAZO]

I have the same problem. It's like the game went from very easy to very difficult all of a sudden. Dropped items are level 50 so I can't wear them. It's ridiculous that no one checks this. Why the enemies are not adjusted according to the level, I can neither damage nor survive. (I play online.)

[Northstrider]

Originally posted by YAZO:

I have the same problem. It's like the game went from very easy to very difficult all of a sudden. Dropped items are level 50 so I can't wear them. It's ridiculous that no one checks this. Why the enemies are not adjusted according to the level, I can neither damage nor survive. (I play online.)

because this is why the time loop exists in the first place. You're suposed to struggle and fail multiple times until you're strong enough to finally strike back. So what you consider "unchecked" is very well intentional. I recommend you to watch out for unique item missions (the ones with the purple item reward symbol) which can grant you some powerful bonuses to tear through that section of the game.

[Mhill]

It's does a mean average of your highest mission you've completed. So if your level 45 and your successfully been doing level 70+ missions it will adjust the Lieutenant fight and Ahriman accordingly.

If your having issues, just play a few really low level missions so that it scales back the difficulty on future Lieutenant and Ahriman battles.

[VeraelHasta]

No, it doesn't. The game hardlocks the minimum level of lieutenants in your first run. There is nothing you can do about it. Just lose to them and hope you will level fast enough.

And if it is intentional, it is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game design. The game at this point tells you: you should be doing this. It is not meant to be done later. And giving the player almost impossible level difference (unless you are minmaxer with op build this early) it is just a bad experience.

[Mhill]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

No, it doesn't. The game hardlocks the minimum level of lieutenants in your first run. There is nothing you can do about it. Just lose to them and hope you will level fast enough.

And if it is intentional, it is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game design. The game at this point tells you: you should be doing this. It is not meant to be done later. And giving the player almost impossible level difference (unless you are minmaxer with op build this early) it is just a bad experience.

It does it to the Ahriman fight that's for sure, mind you it's been a while since i took on a Lieutenant as a low level. Most of my repeated characters have been boosted drastically in level within 30mins and wearing the best gear and skills off the bat.

[VeraelHasta]

So why do you even say this if you don't remember it. If you boost your char, yeah, sure, it is not a problem. But if you play normally it is a really bad feeling blockade.

[Mhill]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

So why do you even say this if you don't remember it. If you boost your char, yeah, sure, it is not a problem. But if you play normally it is a really bad feeling blockade.

To be fair your not expected to beat it straight way, it's supposed to be a long haul. Besides Lieutenant fights are optional. You have plenty of time to build up your character before jumping into those. I certainly wouldn't be attempting Lieutenant fights at Level 45.

[Arcatera]

Yes, it's just another bad design choice from devs.