Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem

Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem

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King 2022 年 9 月 11 日 上午 5:01
Im going to buy Wolcen despite all negative review and give honest opinion
Im desperate. Last epoch doesnt have multplayer so will have to wait on that one. Played diablo 3 and Poe, Im looking for something else right now.

Grim dawn was fine but a bit overrated. Basicaly Ive tried everything out there and Im currently waiting for D4. So why not give Wolcen a shot?
I will edit my opinion down below a bit later.
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LordOfTheBread 2022 年 9 月 13 日 下午 10:50 
引用自 King
@Lordofthebread

Ive actualy checked your review on the game back from 2020 what made you to quit.

- First boss, this one Ive heard several complaints about. I assume they fixed it since even my melee beat it comfortably.

- No unique drops on your way to finishing campagne? Ive had 4 unique drops and Ive seen 5 in shop, furthermore before reaching the craftably city I had 60% legendary gear and 2 unique on me...

- Gamebreaking bugs during campagne was another one you mentioned, again its fixed.

My biggest and only con so far is the mana/Will pool. I feel so restricted on my Sorc.
Please Devs if you're reading this unleash my unlimited powa!
Like this is a hack and Slash game. I dont wanna worry about my resource... Im running all nodes Will related, all my gear has some Will recovery and still I find myself struggling a bit. Lower the cost on Will consumption would be my request.

My review is sure outdated and was made when the game had more issues. That said my point here is not the old issues but what the game is tyoday: a blandd arpg with a limited number opf skills and limited build variety that is still inmcomplete on its story side after well over 2 years.

Let's face it, this fgame failed and pretty much noone is interested in it, even a new story artc will not bring back solid numbers and it seems teh studio has pretty muich moved on. once bitten, twice shy, I will personally not buy anything these guys make next, happy you like it, I don't and still think it deserve teh rating it is hetting, even if it is not as riddled with bugs as it once was.
最後修改者:LordOfTheBread; 2022 年 9 月 13 日 下午 10:52
Peredur 2022 年 9 月 14 日 上午 12:15 
引用自 LordOfTheBread
You clearly don't get the full picture, in early access the game loked like this:
That's not the Early Access but a prototype (a demo made for the GDC 2015), available soon after the KS for those who pledged more than $40.
Early access started in March 2016, with the game in alpha state. It was supposed to be available first only for those who pledged more than $35 but, after a first ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (because people who didn't made the project possible through KS could have access to the alpha directly while many backers had to wait for beta or release), they made the EA available for every backers.
To be noted that the change from Umbra to Wolcen happened between that prototype and the start of the Early Access.

引用自 King
Having said all that I believe youre letting Last Epoch escape with murder here. Released in early 2019 april. 2018 kick starter with a free demo even before that and we still dont have a multiplayer. lol
That's pretty dishonest.
LE is not released yet. It is still in EA.
You are comparing a game not released with a KS in 2018 and a game released two years ago with a KS in 2015.
LE multiplayer is here but not available for everyone yet. But will be available this year, so ~4 years after KS.
Wolcen had a first test of the multiplayer in 2018 but it became available in game with the beta in 2019, so ~4 years after KS.
germality 2022 年 9 月 14 日 下午 12:10 
I forgot it was called Umbra. The only real bad thing with this game is the news of the devs leaving the studio.

This game is incredible. The quality is insanely good. It's always sad when the best games die. I miss Marvel Heroes on a daily basis.
最後修改者:germality; 2022 年 9 月 14 日 下午 12:11
LordOfTheBread 2022 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:09 
引用自 Germality
This game is incredible. The quality is insanely good. It's always sad when the best games die. I miss Marvel Heroes on a daily basis.

Said noone ever, incredible game? Insabelky good quality? Is this the only game you ever played?

There are a lot of great games on Steam, sorry to say that Wolcen is not part of them, not by a very long shot. The fact that the studiois imploding is result of the game not being that great.
germality 2022 年 9 月 14 日 下午 5:35 
引用自 LordOfTheBread
引用自 Germality
This game is incredible. The quality is insanely good. It's always sad when the best games die. I miss Marvel Heroes on a daily basis.

Said noone ever, incredible game? Insabelky good quality? Is this the only game you ever played?

There are a lot of great games on Steam, sorry to say that Wolcen is not part of them, not by a very long shot. The fact that the studiois imploding is result of the game not being that great.

I don't care what you think.
LordOfTheBread 2022 年 9 月 14 日 下午 6:05 
引用自 Germality
引用自 LordOfTheBread

Said noone ever, incredible game? Insabelky good quality? Is this the only game you ever played?

There are a lot of great games on Steam, sorry to say that Wolcen is not part of them, not by a very long shot. The fact that the studiois imploding is result of the game not being that great.

I don't care what you think.

Then why do you even bother answering? Incredible games never get average ratings, you're free to not care about what everyobne's think tho.
germality 2022 年 9 月 14 日 下午 8:02 
引用自 LordOfTheBread
引用自 Germality

I don't care what you think.

Then why do you even bother answering? Incredible games never get average ratings, you're free to not care about what everyobne's think tho.

I don't. Mindless sheep mean nothing to me.
LordOfTheBread 2022 年 9 月 14 日 下午 8:29 
引用自 Germality
引用自 LordOfTheBread

Then why do you even bother answering? Incredible games never get average ratings, you're free to not care about what everyobne's think tho.

I don't. Mindless sheep mean nothing to me.

I personally don't spend time responding to sheeps, even the minded ones, you do you tho.

If you have noything to say it is best to avoid saying anything.
Sgt. Magnusson 2022 年 9 月 15 日 上午 6:52 
The living failure and mediocre streamer still trying to convince people that Wolcen is an incredible game. OMEGALUL.
Furgas 2022 年 9 月 15 日 上午 7:24 
I started this game yesterday.. with PoE being not fun this time around. Having fun with it so far. only a lvl 12 mage atm tho
Peredur 2022 年 9 月 15 日 下午 11:04 
Beggining of the game is the best part. Act1 is the only thing that went through EA and is the most polished.
Then quality drops, with things even the devs are not happy about (Apocalyptic Aspects, Act 3, itemization, crafting, etc).
Distroier 2022 年 9 月 17 日 下午 6:33 
引用自 King
Noone has yet answered this question:

What about jewels and weapon that give certain element as +5 dmg on spells? For example fire +5 on spell attacks? What does that exactly mean?

Does it only buff fire spells or do you always get that bonus when you attack? If you always get that bonus, does that mean you can trigger burn on enemies even if you dont use fire spells?

Hey there! Let me try to answer your questions:
+ damage on spells does exactly as it says. Every ability with the "spell"-tag gets the damage added. So even a frost spell can do a bit of fire damage with that bonus.
Additionally it can also trigger ailments but only the highest type of damage (that is not physical) is considered. So if your skill does 50% fire, 30% frost and 20% lightning damage the skill can only apply burn.
With the perk for +1 additional ailment type, that skill would also apply freeze because frost is the second highest dmg type.

You can see what type of ailments your skill apply at what rate and the exact composition of damage types in your character screen (press c -> click on skills).

I hope that helps!
Cheers
King 2022 年 9 月 18 日 上午 12:55 
Since Ive started this thread Im gonna finish it. Remember when I said Wolcen puts POE and LE in shame when it comes to polishing and frame rate? Yea... Im not sure about that anymore definitely not POE, it sure looked that way until end game. I was able to book some party sessions and there was no frame rate issues, however I noticed lagg. This also occurred in my other end game solo sessions where frame rate was fine and steady but there was massive lag. It wasnt even a freeze... so its server side issue. I asked around and yes, this is a huge problem among the remaining playerbase.

Anyway, other than that I find it a good game really. I will definitely come back once again before D4 to check whether the lag is fixed.

Call me crazy but Im enjoying Diablo Immortal! lool These new servers are much less p2w
However you need to put some money to have fun otherwise its slow, grinding process. BUT if you dont compare urself to others you might actualy have more fun as it is chalenging. My advice would be to wait for special deals that occur everytime you achievement goes up.
TRIPLE A ®™ 2022 年 9 月 18 日 下午 12:38 
No such thing as "above average" game when it's missing an entire act from its story mode.
Lady von Titz 2022 年 9 月 19 日 上午 5:37 
Okay I hated Wolcen's release, stepped away from it, slated it in alot of chats on steam, however, I've come back to the game 7 times and each time I've come back improvements have been made... I enjoy the combat, it's quick yet retains a degree of heft, kills are very satisfying, a lot of yeetage occurs: K.O-ing monster/magic mobs/Ethereal droids/demons mobs/Huge Mech-droids off ledges, wall slams, body slams, blood showering exploding deaths with body parts flying in chaotic directions, enemies who fold in at the mid from impacts death, fall to their knees and slump over dead, comically die bolt upright and keel backwards, dramatic ice explosion deaths, crumpling in a heap from burn deaths...ahem, the animation is brilliant and completely random and only having access to one weapon loadout [you can change at will mind you] unlike most [arpgs'] which allow for a main and secondary weapon loadout you get down in the dirt with what you've got, you can vary for instance with 2h weapons, Great sword, Battle axe Great hammer, Heavy Bow.

Dual wield is standard and you gain a speed bonus for doing so, Sword and board means you're going to smash everything in the face with that shield as standard/part of rolling combo, dodge rolls are standard with their own pips of stamina a diet version of 'souls' roly-poly which has gotten me out numerous mob crowd overwhelms and boss attacks; Pistols [dual wield also] exist and who doesn't want to borderline Max Payne there way through a swath of fire demons with a pair ice pistols... as it stands at the moment I have a 2h great sword self build who currently has 75% chance to have upto 20 stacks/ticks of fire d.o.t, have the removed the -25% attack speed weight debuff from via passives and levels, has war shout that give me 25%+ attack speed 10% damage buff, causing mid to low damage to enemies in range, gives 8% to all resistances plus a permanent passive that increases attack speed by 1% per hit which maxes at 50%, also a three hit spell combo I made up: piecing hammer throw, a shield/shoulder charge, call the same hammer back for more damage, then slam another hammer on the ground which causes an aoe and adds to the d.o.t from previously! Wolcen makes arse whuppin' enjoyable.

Stats are just not the same a other arpgs strng, Dex, Int don't factor into the game instead its... Ferocity: Crit damage+Crit chance, Wisdom: Magic dot dmg+ chance to proc and Toughness: health + shield points. Agilty: attack speed + spell cast speed [rightly corrected by Peredur]

Passives and stats on all gear make the build, which I got used to but as game choice... might not have been such a good Idea, however, with some learning, it does work yet can be odd when you go back to the tradition stats in other arpg's

Magic is locked to the weapon type unfortunately guns+bow: long range attacks, escape tatics. 1h: cqc, charge or escape tactics 2h: cqc, charge, aoe. Staves: all magic only. Catalyst allow for use of all skills with a 1h in main hand.

Wolcen... wants to beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of you and equal wants you to do the same to it; Like most arpgs' the first few levels let you off but after a while enemies on Wolcen just get...weird or big and weird or big, spawn loads of little impish creatures which charge you then the big charges you too. I could go on. Don't get me wrong the endgame is disappointing on a superficial level, but hey I get to be a bounty hunter/project manager/lady of court earned through combat for a city state that I literally saved from some ♥♥♥♥ up ♥♥♥♥..."what was that? you want me to go through this one way portal to hunt down a demon obelisk in an inescapable pit, which will spawn a horrendous amount of demons, which will increase in size, health, resistances to damage oh and the obelisk will be impervious to damage whilst the spawned mobs still live...then once defeated take it's broken arse...I mean, resources for the City!? I can do that.
最後修改者:Lady von Titz; 2022 年 9 月 22 日 上午 2:34
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