My Opinion On The Ending (Spoilers)

[Almea]

So basically at the ending, you see that you truly were the evil one, and not just kept there for no good reason. You're hinted at this by a kind, just nature of some of the guardians. And it's confirmed when you get to the ground and everything in your path decays.

I feel like with the rabbit (who I feel is either the creator of that prison, the one he apparently killed, or he's a figment of MC's imagination) explaining things, it seems more heavily hinted that the main character doesn't know why he's here. Maybe from being locked up for so long he's forgotten why.

I feel like it would of been a better ending if you show up on earth and he himself finds that he decays all in his path, and then can decide to turn back, to self imprison himself. He found out he truly was a monster, and decided to turn back. Or wander to a landmark and have a cutscene play, showing the decay spread accross the world. He was free, and that's all he cared about.

I can say it feels a lot more natural than him being an alien, or product of one.

[Pundit]

The thing is that you cannot apply human morality to him or his situation, since you're not totally clear on whether or not he can suffer the way people suffer. To him the passage of time and physical pain could be trivial things. You don't really know how you feel about the situation until you choose how to feel about it at the end.

It's implied that before your capture you did manage to do some significant damage and cause your captors to go overboard on your imprisonment. But everything they do and say reflects more on them than it does on you. Everyone there is fighting you for a reason entirely singular to them. Some just wanted to use you to test their limits, some wanted to protect earth, and one of them just wanted to leave and used you to do it. There's a lot of moral grey and dubious motivations among your captors, and I guess it's supposed to serve as a kind of microcosm for the human condition.

So why would any sane sentient individual choose to side with his former captors? Who knows. Maybe a newfound respect for a worthy opponent, maybe it was recognition of how much the planet wanted to preserve itself, or maybe it was simply personal judgement based on his limited interaction with the jailers.

[Almea]

I'm not trying to apply logic to him, I'm trying to apply logic to the ending suddenly including aliens and such.

My complaint about the ending applies regardless of his reasons for making his desicion. It just seemed to me like an odd thing to include, it actually strangely enough made more sense to have him as a mysterious, unwillingly destructive being. Rather than having the power to fight back agaisnt his alien makers and being defective.

[Charchar]

I mean it's pretty clear the Stranger/Rider isn't a fully organic being from the start. Though it's also clear they're not a full-on robot, as noted by The Burst's scan showing they have a heartbeat and DNA. Seems to be the Stranger is a mass-produced cyborg of some sort made by The Star's creators to help scout out worlds to take for their own. He also seems to be made of something that's very... Hostile to the worlds he scouts out, or maybe just that particular one. He probably didn't really GET emotions or anything besides just being destruction incarnate until his experiences with the guardians taught him all sorts of ways people are. The Chain teaches thrill in a fight, the Strap teaches the limits of a person's psyche, the Line shows that people sometimes big themselves up, the Scale shows how broken somebody can be by desire for vengeance, the Hand shows compassion giving somebody strength to fight for a cause, the Song shows deception and trying to forgive, the Burst shows arrogance and superiority, the Edge shows discipline, the Beat shows optimism. Whether or not he chooses to take those lessons to heart or not is your choice in the end. And even if he decides to protect that one world, he's already done damage to it and killed so many and his very nature means he can't really set foot on it. So he's, at best, a thankless hero. As The Star mentions, that world didn't even know they existed. Even The Voice had no idea, though The Line may have had some idea via looking into the future.

[Zombie]

I always thought he was built with the capacity to drain energy of certain matter around him. The grass and ground wilting away as he steps near it, if you look closely at his body it is lighting up blue.

This is reflected in gameplay as well, whenever you perfectly block attacks you restore your health(and light up), and when you bring one of the bosses through a stage of pain, your health goes up a stage.

It would also explain why he's not wearing shoes, maybe its through his skin-contact that he drains stuff around him, it even shoes with his sword when he's fighting the Edge and electricity is being channeled into it through the ground and -only- his sword.


The prison that they built to house the Rider were likely made of an equally alien matter that he couldn't simply drain, either that or there is certain matter he can't drain. I'm not sure if its just the limits of the engine or if it was supposed to make a point...but if you try going to the beach at the end, you cannot drain the sand or the water of its life. When you go up and watch the rabbit-face guy and the little girl say something cryptic, you can alternate between the surface area and the sand from the beach. It won't decay. Furthermore the tower that seemed to house his piloting mech wasn't drained of energy either. They may have even used the Riders DNA of sorts to create the prison.

Overall I think it was a pretty powerful game and I really liked how cryptic everything was.

[GuudBooi]

When you are in the last land, where you walk and there are credit endings, is there the rabbit with the daughter ? Does he talk ? Would like to know .

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When you are in the last land, where you walk and there are credit endings, is there the rabbit with the daughter ? Does he talk ? Would like to know .

In the Free World level, you can find the rabbit (called The Voice) with his daughter, he does talk. He used you in order to see his daughter again, even though he knew full well that in doing so he may destroy everything in his world.

To paraphrase, he says that you may think that he is evil or insane for doing so (as he willingly risked the destruction of his entire world) but he hopes that you have changed.

The linear narrative is wonderfully designed, and there is a lot of forshadowing throughout the game. Great, great stuff.

[GuudBooi]

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When you are in the last land, where you walk and there are credit endings, is there the rabbit with the daughter ? Does he talk ? Would like to know .

In the Free World level, you can find the rabbit (called The Voice) with his daughter, he does talk. He used you in order to see his daughter again, even though he knew full well that in doing so he may destroy everything in his world.

To paraphrase, he says that you may think that he is evil or insane for doing so (as he willingly risked the destruction of his entire world) but he hopes that you have changed.

The linear narrative is wonderfully designed, and there is a lot of forshadowing throughout the game. Great, great stuff.

OK thanks for let me know, and yhea, this game is a big thing .