Do we ever get an explanation of why Ethan doesn't just walk out of the house?

[gecman]

Disclaimer: I know it's a video game. I realize that I should just accept that. I can't. I just can't do it. Every time I pass by a window my brain screams JUST HOP OUT THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ WINDOW ETHAN.

So far I'm struggling a bit with this game. The difficulty is completely artificial in that all the enemies are bullet sponges, Ethan is slower than my arthritic mother (literally - my mom out for a leisurely stroll with the dog is faster than Ethan at a full sprint), every enemy is basically a bobblehead on crack, the number of headshots required to down something is variable which also confuses me, and Ethan's ability to pull a trigger is about as fast as his walking speed. Why is the firing speed of the 9mm in this game so slow? IRL I fire at the same pace as Ethan with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bolt action rifle! Faster if I really put the pedal to the metal.

That said, the atmosphere kicks ass, the environment is cool, and I like the return to roots. I can get past the games foibles, but I have to know something. Why the ♥♥♥♥ does Ethan not just walk out of the house?

We watched the old man just open the garage. I have some lady on the phone telling me I have to escape. Seriously dude. You have a 9mm, at one point you had bolt cutters, you've got a knife... just go out of one of the billion windows, or a door, or the clearly open garage... anything! Do we find out later that there's a magic house spell keeping us in here? Why am I wandering around collecting dog heads? Why don't I just snatch that shotgun, blow a hole in the door, and stroll right on out of there?

(I realize I'm just being unreasonable with this, but it's funny to think about) WE'RE IN ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOUISIANA! This is America! Hey Ethan. I have a plan. Stroll out of the house, take yourself out to any one of a billion gun stores in the south, buy your own personal arsenal, and come back to the house armed to the teeth. Doesn't much matter if something is immortal when you have 100 rounds of 12 guage in a semi automatic shotgun. Let's see grandpa brainy pants regenerate when he's splattered into a trillion microscopic pieces.

[The Zombie King's Hot Chips]

I believe it some of it has to do with his wife being stuck on the premises. Would you risk the extra time it takes to exit, only to come back and find out something else happened to her? It's been 3 years.
Also, those gun stores are probably miles upon miles away and Ethan's car probably isn't in working order anymore.

Also; try walking outside later in the game. That might also be another factor :P

[gecman]

Originally posted by Patchwork Heaven:

I believe it some of it has to do with his wife being stuck on the premises. Would you risk the extra time it takes to exit, only to come back and find out something else happened to her? It's been 3 years.
Also, those gun stores are probably miles upon miles away and Ethan's car probably isn't in working order anymore.

Also; try walking outside later in the game. That might also be another factor :P

hahahaha well, my wife and I are both pragmatic and both military type background so probably yes. I think trying to figure out what you would do in real life for the totality of the game certainly enters the realm of ridiculous, but I would say that if I were to realize I was up against multiple adversaries whose strength and number I do not know, who are potentially better armed than I, who are, optimistically, holding my wife hostage, and playing on their home turf, ya, I'm 100% confident that at a minimum my strategy would not be to run around that adversary's house armed with nothing more than a 9mm because the probability of that realistically resulting in a happy ending for my wife and I, supernatural mumbo jumbo factored in or not, is around 0%. Especially if my hand is missing, which I'm not ashamed to say I would not recover from as well as Ethan seemed to bahahahaha

I'd probably start with a call to the police, who in the real world, work with partners at a minimum. I'll have to ask my state trooper buddy what they would do if they got video evidence of a bunch of ritually killed animals and dead thing everywhere in addition to tangible evidence of someone being held hostage. Just a shot in the dark, but I'm guessing more than two cops would show up ;-p.

[sigina ✝]

because he's a white guy in a spooky house.

[DessIntress]

Because he wants to save his wife?
Because he discovers higher goals in the course of story, such as stopping a spread and these monsters.
And last but not least, because the windows in the beginning usually have grilles and barbed wire, just like the balcony and Co.

And the "old man" is much stronger than you.

By the way, you might complain that you don't have enough ammunition because you totally blasted her in the moment of panic, as the pistol shoots too fast. (in the "faster" case)
And it's the weakest firearm ... you start always with the weakest.

[talgaby]

The wife, yes. Although I am surprised that you only question that, when the game has plenty more glaring plot holes, like the cop who is surprised someone is there, when Lucas says the table it is the same cop again checking on them. Or the fact that nobody managed to find an oil tanker on US soil. Or that the consortium managed to set up an entire underground science base next to the Baker home without anyone—including the Bakers—noticing it.

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by gecman:

Disclaimer: I know it's a video game. I realize that I should just accept that. I can't. I just can't do it. Every time I pass by a window my brain screams JUST HOP OUT THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ WINDOW ETHAN.

I mean, this is a thing in nearly every horror game out there.
There are a couple of reasons why he isn't leaving though:
-his wife
-he is in the middle of nowhere and he has no car left, without supplies, a phone or anything he won't make it far
-police isn't helping either as we know so he know getting help wouldn't work either

There are tons of games out there where staying makes absolutely no sense so I don't quite get why you "blame" this one. Try Outlast or games like that where it really makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Originally posted by gecman:

So far I'm struggling a bit with this game. The difficulty is completely artificial in that all the enemies are bullet sponges, Ethan is slower than my arthritic mother (literally - my mom out for a leisurely stroll with the dog is faster than Ethan at a full sprint), every enemy is basically a bobblehead on crack, the number of headshots required to down something is variable which also confuses me, and Ethan's ability to pull a trigger is about as fast as his walking speed. Why is the firing speed of the 9mm in this game so slow? IRL I fire at the same pace as Ethan with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bolt action rifle! Faster if I really put the pedal to the metal..

So first of all, and I get that you don't like this fact but here we go:
This is a game, no real life.
Ethan is not that fast because of gameplay reasons. Simply being able to outrun every enemy in a matter of seconds would completely destroy everything.
And I don't get the bullet sponges.
I played through this game countless times and if you don't miss a lot of shots and hit the head constantly they are dead pretty quick.

Originally posted by gecman:

We watched the old man just open the garage. I have some lady on the phone telling me I have to escape. Seriously dude. You have a 9mm, at one point you had bolt cutters, you've got a knife... just go out of one of the billion windows, or a door, or the clearly open garage... anything! Do we find out later that there's a magic house spell keeping us in here? Why am I wandering around collecting dog heads? Why don't I just snatch that shotgun, blow a hole in the door, and stroll right on out of there?

Again, your wife is still there and you will find out later that ethan knows more than you'd expect.
And, again, he would have nowhere to go.
No way to contact the outside world, no car since it got destroyed during the boss fight and no supplies whatsoever.
Ethan would most likely just get lost and die. Or jack would get him back.
It makes more sense to stay inside. I mean he has safe rooms, supplies, the bakers themself aren't that though...it just makes sense.

Originally posted by gecman:

(I realize I'm just being unreasonable with this, but it's funny to think about) WE'RE IN ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOUISIANA! This is America! Hey Ethan. I have a plan. Stroll out of the house, take yourself out to any one of a billion gun stores in the south, buy your own personal arsenal, and come back to the house armed to the teeth. Doesn't much matter if something is immortal when you have 100 rounds of 12 guage in a semi automatic shotgun. Let's see grandpa brainy pants regenerate when he's splattered into a trillion microscopic pieces.

Yeah right, and during that time your wife is most likely already dead and whatever it is that infected them will spread even further.
Sorry but staying inside makes way more sense than escaping in the middle of nowhere, with no car, no cell phone, no supplies, in the middle of the night and without knowing where to go even.
I mean, yeah, shooting is cool and all but let's be realistic here. That just wouldn't work.

[gecman]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by gecman:

Disclaimer: I know it's a video game. I realize that I should just accept that. I can't. I just can't do it. Every time I pass by a window my brain screams JUST HOP OUT THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ WINDOW ETHAN.

I mean, this is a thing in nearly every horror game out there.
There are a couple of reasons why he isn't leaving though:
-his wife
-he is in the middle of nowhere and he has no car left, without supplies, a phone or anything he won't make it far
-police isn't helping either as we know so he know getting help wouldn't work either

There are tons of games out there where staying makes absolutely no sense so I don't quite get why you "blame" this one. Try Outlast or games like that where it really makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Originally posted by gecman:

So far I'm struggling a bit with this game. The difficulty is completely artificial in that all the enemies are bullet sponges, Ethan is slower than my arthritic mother (literally - my mom out for a leisurely stroll with the dog is faster than Ethan at a full sprint), every enemy is basically a bobblehead on crack, the number of headshots required to down something is variable which also confuses me, and Ethan's ability to pull a trigger is about as fast as his walking speed. Why is the firing speed of the 9mm in this game so slow? IRL I fire at the same pace as Ethan with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bolt action rifle! Faster if I really put the pedal to the metal..

So first of all, and I get that you don't like this fact but here we go:
This is a game, no real life.
Ethan is not that fast because of gameplay reasons. Simply being able to outrun every enemy in a matter of seconds would completely destroy everything.
And I don't get the bullet sponges.
I played through this game countless times and if you don't miss a lot of shots and hit the head constantly they are dead pretty quick.

Originally posted by gecman:

We watched the old man just open the garage. I have some lady on the phone telling me I have to escape. Seriously dude. You have a 9mm, at one point you had bolt cutters, you've got a knife... just go out of one of the billion windows, or a door, or the clearly open garage... anything! Do we find out later that there's a magic house spell keeping us in here? Why am I wandering around collecting dog heads? Why don't I just snatch that shotgun, blow a hole in the door, and stroll right on out of there?

Again, your wife is still there and you will find out later that ethan knows more than you'd expect.
And, again, he would have nowhere to go.
No way to contact the outside world, no car since it got destroyed during the boss fight and no supplies whatsoever.
Ethan would most likely just get lost and die. Or jack would get him back.
It makes more sense to stay inside. I mean he has safe rooms, supplies, the bakers themself aren't that though...it just makes sense.

Originally posted by gecman:

(I realize I'm just being unreasonable with this, but it's funny to think about) WE'RE IN ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOUISIANA! This is America! Hey Ethan. I have a plan. Stroll out of the house, take yourself out to any one of a billion gun stores in the south, buy your own personal arsenal, and come back to the house armed to the teeth. Doesn't much matter if something is immortal when you have 100 rounds of 12 guage in a semi automatic shotgun. Let's see grandpa brainy pants regenerate when he's splattered into a trillion microscopic pieces.

Yeah right, and during that time your wife is most likely already dead and whatever it is that infected them will spread even further.
Sorry but staying inside makes way more sense than escaping in the middle of nowhere, with no car, no cell phone, no supplies, in the middle of the night and without knowing where to go even.
I mean, yeah, shooting is cool and all but let's be realistic here. That just wouldn't work.

Man, I feel bad doing this to ya, but TLDR hahaha. I'm not that hell bent on trying to apply logic to RE7.

[Wubbinz]

Originally posted by gecman:

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

I mean, this is a thing in nearly every horror game out there.
There are a couple of reasons why he isn't leaving though:
-his wife
-he is in the middle of nowhere and he has no car left, without supplies, a phone or anything he won't make it far
-police isn't helping either as we know so he know getting help wouldn't work either

There are tons of games out there where staying makes absolutely no sense so I don't quite get why you "blame" this one. Try Outlast or games like that where it really makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


So first of all, and I get that you don't like this fact but here we go:
This is a game, no real life.
Ethan is not that fast because of gameplay reasons. Simply being able to outrun every enemy in a matter of seconds would completely destroy everything.
And I don't get the bullet sponges.
I played through this game countless times and if you don't miss a lot of shots and hit the head constantly they are dead pretty quick.



Again, your wife is still there and you will find out later that ethan knows more than you'd expect.
And, again, he would have nowhere to go.
No way to contact the outside world, no car since it got destroyed during the boss fight and no supplies whatsoever.
Ethan would most likely just get lost and die. Or jack would get him back.
It makes more sense to stay inside. I mean he has safe rooms, supplies, the bakers themself aren't that though...it just makes sense.


Yeah right, and during that time your wife is most likely already dead and whatever it is that infected them will spread even further.
Sorry but staying inside makes way more sense than escaping in the middle of nowhere, with no car, no cell phone, no supplies, in the middle of the night and without knowing where to go even.
I mean, yeah, shooting is cool and all but let's be realistic here. That just wouldn't work.

Man, I feel bad doing this to ya, but TLDR hahaha. I'm not that hell bent on trying to apply logic to RE7.

Your 5 paragraph thread trying to apply logic to RE7 suggested that you were to be fair.

[gecman]

Originally posted by Johnp92:

Originally posted by gecman:

Man, I feel bad doing this to ya, but TLDR hahaha. I'm not that hell bent on trying to apply logic to RE7.

Your 5 paragraph thread trying to apply logic to RE7 suggested that you were to be fair.

If we're really being fair, my five paragraphs were spread out and didn't start with phrases like "I don't get", "so first of all", "Again...", and "yeah right" which when I skim something triggers this immediate flag in my brain that says, "This is probably a rant. Am not reading."

[Lanzagranadas]

Originally posted by DessIntress:

Because he wants to save his wife?

The wife that in the first half hour of the game chopped his left hand with a chainsaw and forced him to unload full 9mm clips into her head, showing she was clearly not human anymore. Who in the world would still think of "saving" his wife at that point?

[gecman]

Finished the game - it was worth it and it did make more sense by the end. Still no idea why Ethan went it alone, but the story was cool and I definitely enjoyed the return to the horror roots instead of a pure action game.

[librious]

Really? The answer is Eveline. She wouldn't let him leave. Remember when he actually tries to leave and she knocks him out of the boat and traps him into her mold? Stop looking for reasons to hate this game, it's an awesome game and not every RE has to be the same.

[WetNachosFlavor]

Because the game would be over in 5 minutes

[El Fuerte]

"Why doesn't he just leave?" lol yeah. If we were to follow real life logic we wouldn't have many Survival Horror games to play would we?

-Leon could've just left Raccon City if he wanted. Streets were full of cars with dead owners inside. Also why not just shoot locked doors again?

-Heather could've just said "screw the cult" and build a defensive base near the police station. But no she had to go to Silent Hill alone which she clearly knew that it was hell and ruined her father.

-Daniel could've just left Brennenburg Castle through those opened windows and come back with the authorities in Amnesia: The Dark Descent. But nooo let's venture though pitch black darkness full of zombie servants with nothing equiped but a LAMP.

[DessIntress]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

Originally posted by DessIntress:

Because he wants to save his wife?

The wife that in the first half hour of the game chopped his left hand with a chainsaw and forced him to unload full 9mm clips into her head, showing she was clearly not human anymore. Who in the world would still think of "saving" his wife at that point?

This is called loyalty.
By this time, it has long been noticed that something is wrong with his long-lost wife and she has almost two personalities. Also don't forget that she was initially locked up and scared. So yes, there are still possibilities. She might as well suffer from schizophrenia, brainwashing or other things that she could do nothing for, but she needed help. All this leads to the fact that you want to know what's going on there. And so one thing leads to another. Finally, it turns out that she needs help because the parasite, which isn't even as different as schizophrenia and brainwashing.

Don't forget that he has been looking for her for years and finally found again. Wouldn't it be "stupid" to run away without knowing what happens there? But okay, there are different personalities. Of course, you could also (e:try to) run away immediately. Even during orderly evacuations, there are always outliers because they flee in panic and so on.

e:format