The DLC Retcons the main game

[THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK]

So as we know in the "Daughters" DLC Alma....AHEM...I Mean "Evelin" takes over the Baker Family pretty much instantly, very much like the Rage Virus. However in the Main Game we find notes from consultations with the Family Doctor whereby the Mould is slowly building up in the brain over a period of Weeks. Is this a plot hole?

[illgib]

The Bakers are under Evelin's influence, they aren't moulded who are product of the virus.

[THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK]

That's why it makes no sense. In the Scorpion Room upstairs a letter from the Bakers Family Doctor conducted after a series of tests that a "Mysterious Mould" was slowly growing in their brains. This was before they went crazy and took a long period of time to happen. This is completely at odds with what happened the "Daughters" DLC

[Lanzagranadas]

Yeah, that's one of the many plotholes I listed in another thread:

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

1) Daughters DLC not being consistent with the Marguerite's diaries found in the main story
2) Huge ship ravaged by a biohazard, everyone on board dies > Nobody notices it for 3 years.
3) Baker family "disappears" and strange murders start to occur in the region. Nobody cares to send a team to investigate.
4) Serum that's supposed to cure the infection doesn't do sh¡t (doesn't matter if you cure Mia or Zoe, they're still infected)
5) Mia and Alan, who were supposed to have the means to immunize themselves against Eveline, just decided to do nothing.
6) Suddenly, the company has some magic pills they give to Lucas and he gains total immunity against Eveline's mental control. Wouldn't have been a good idea to give some of those pills to Mia and Alan as well?
7) Ethan is infected too, but nobody cares.
8) VHS as a standard for filming in 2017
9) Clancy defeats Jack Baker twice in Nightmare. If that's supposed to be canon, it doesn't make any sense.
10) Main character receives a suspicious call from his dead wife asking him to go meet her on an abandoned farm in the middle of the woods > Dude goes alone instead of calling the police or something.
11) Suddenly there's no word on the BSAA, Chris is now with a reformed Umbrella that's now a good Umbrella because it's blue.
12) Someone recovered Wesker's handgun from the top of a volcano in Africa and changed it into an amazing anti-BOW gun that now Chris uses to show everyone how he actually allways loved Wesker.

And I still left a few more out because I didn't want to write a wall of text nobody would read :)

Oddly enough, I've seen certain people claiming that RE7 has improved the franchise's story quality, when lol, it's quite the contrary, it got worse than ever.

I'd go with the main game files. They probably changed things to turn that series of events into a 15-20 minutes DLC.

[THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK]

Oh a BIG one is the article about the Civilian Survivors of Raccoon City - there were no Civilian Survivors because they dropped an H-Bomb on the place.

[a basic bitch]

If you think Resident Evil games had a consistent storyline before this one, I'd like to know what games you played.

[medion_no]

Resident Evil 4 takes places nearby madrid (Spain capital at the center of the country) where we dont live in old forbidden remote villages who speaks in latinoamerican accent, we dont have feudal lords in castles anymore since centuries and there are no islands or big lakes around at all... Dont take the RE storylines too seriously.

[Lanzagranadas]

Originally posted by a basic ♥♥♥♥♥:

If you think Resident Evil games had a consistent storyline before this one, I'd like to know what games you played.

Most RE games had a consistent storyline. They might have had a few plotholes and minor retcons from game to game but it was still not this bad. At least none of them contradicts themselves, RE7 does, and more than once. I mean, when a game retcons previous games that's bad, but when a game retcons itself that's friggin' dumb :)

Originally posted by medion_no:

Resident Evil 4 takes places nearby madrid (Spain capital at the center of the country) where we dont live in old forbidden remote villages who speaks in latinoamerican accent, we dont have feudal lords in castles anymore since centuries and there are no islands or big lakes around at all... Dont take the RE storylines too seriously.

The first games take place in a fictional American town that doesn't exist anywhere in the real world. RE4 takes place in a fictional Spanish region. I don't see how that impacts negatively on the plot, lack of consistency due to a bad script and lack of realism due to lazy research and documentation are completely different things.

[THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK]

"If you think Resident Evil games had a consistent storyline before this one, I'd like to know what games you played."

Well, that isn't what I said....I asked if it was a plot hole or not. If so then that's cool, if not that's cool too. Nevertheless I think the issue is that CAPCOM were (and continue to be) Vague regarding whether RE7 is a full Reboot or not. It is true that from Game to Game RE often contradicts the overall story but let's be honest about it RE7 deliberately Contradicts "itself " in order to sell some overpriced DLC. I have not noticed this in the other games - with the possible exeption of Revelations 2 where Miss Burton survives a huge concrete column falling on her.

In my estimation CAPCOM changed the storyline in RE7 to rake in more cash.

[redsky1335]

Originally posted by odoscoldbeak:

"If you think Resident Evil games had a consistent storyline before this one, I'd like to know what games you played."

Well, that isn't what I said....I asked if it was a plot hole or not. If so then that's cool, if not that's cool too. Nevertheless I think the issue is that CAPCOM were (and continue to be) Vague regarding whether RE7 is a full Reboot or not. It is true that from Game to Game RE often contradicts the overall story but let's be honest about it RE7 deliberately Contradicts "itself " in order to sell some overpriced DLC. I have not noticed this in the other games - with the possible exeption of Revelations 2 where Miss Burton survives a huge concrete column falling on her.

In my estimation CAPCOM changed the storyline in RE7 to rake in more cash.

RE7 is absolutely NOT a REboot (see what I did there?), and there is very simple proof. All you have to do is read the files/newspaper clippings in RE7, and you get a brief primer on the events of RE2-3. IIRC one of the very first documents you find is a newspaper article written by the journalist character (I always forget her name) which talks about Raccoon City. There is no reason to assume the events of RE4, 5, and 6 did not occur before Ethan's adventure.

While the "Not A Hero" is answering all the damned questions left unanswered from RE7, I (and I assume most fans) would be pretty miffed if they retconned RE4-6 from existence during Chris's fight against Lucas. I'm hoping for some clever tie-ins to previous entries; maybe some familiar faces/voices/weapons/enemies, or even just fun Easter eggs.

[Overseer]

It's simply a game design choice for the sake of "get to the point".
I also don't like how fast the events turn out in the 2 story DLCs, but those are not the games strongest points anyways.
I am fairly certain the developers did not want to drag i out for too long as that could quickly turn off people that bought it for the horror experience.

[THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK]

Haha "RE"- Boot. Very good!

I'm not so sure though as the Notes are at best...unclear. I hypothasized that 5 & 6 have been retconed because, as previously stated, of the magazine report regarding support groups for the Racoon City Survivors Sixteen Years Later - There were no Survivors (civilian survivors at least) from the first Three Games as the whole area was blitzed with an Atom Bomb. Nevertheless RE7 is at least very good reboot and not another Call Of Duty clone masquarating as a Reboot (Tomb Raider anyone?).

[Panic Fire]

Originally posted by odoscoldbeak:

Oh a BIG one is the article about the Civilian Survivors of Raccoon City - there were no Civilian Survivors because they dropped an H-Bomb on the place.

Incorrect.

Resident Evil Outbreak File 1 and File 2 show how several civilians survived and escaped racoon city (with a cure no less for those infected though not yet turned by the T-virus)

Infact Alyssa Ashcroft is one such survivors. Who also makes an appearance by name in RE7

http://residentevil.wikia.com/wiki/Alyssa_Ashcroft


Missing people in Dulvey

At some point, Alyssa moved to Dulvey, Louisiana and became a reporter for the Dulvey Daily. At the start of 2016, she wrote an article surrounding the disappearances of at least twenty people around Dulvey, who had gone missing in a period of two years.

Other survivors include but arn't limited to

Alyssa Ashcroft · Jim Chapman · George Hamilton · David King · Cindy Lennox · Kevin Ryman · Yoko Suzuki · Mark Wilkins

[redsky1335]

Originally posted by odoscoldbeak:

Haha "RE"- Boot. Very good!

I'm not so sure though as the Notes are at best...unclear. I hypothasized that 5 & 6 have been retconed because, as previously stated, of the magazine report regarding support groups for the Racoon City Survivors Sixteen Years Later - There were no Survivors (civilian survivors at least) from the first Three Games as the whole area was blitzed with an Atom Bomb. Nevertheless RE7 is at least very good reboot and not another Call Of Duty clone masquarating as a Reboot (Tomb Raider anyone?).

I haven't personally played or read into it much, but Resident Evil Outbreak 1 and 2 reveal a handful of civilian survivors who actually made it out of RC. Back in RE2, we were led to believe that there were FOUR people to make it out: Leon, Claire, Sherry, and HUNK. Over time, this was retconned; and honestly this is a retcon I am okay with. Why shouldn't a couple other cunning, resourceful Raccoon City folks be able to get the hell outta there?

As for RE7's notes, you can tell there wasn't a whole lot of effort put into them. Nothing like early entries, where you could be enthralled by a dead man's diary as he details his final moments. In particular I recall from very first RE the "itchy...tasty" diary. That was nightmare fuel, even for my pre-adolescent brain at the time.

RE7's files and clippings feel like afterthoughts rather than creative material which enriches the game world. Perhaps most frustrating, is the final room before the final boss fight where there are like four files which struggle to explain the entire plot of RE7 with four pages of terrible writing. The whole "files" thing seems simple, but to weave it into a game seamlessly is harder than it seems. Or seams.

[Lanzagranadas]

Originally posted by redsky1335:

Back in RE2, we were led to believe that there were FOUR people to make it out: Leon, Claire, Sherry, and HUNK. Over time, this was retconned; and honestly this is a retcon I am okay with.

That's not a retcon. There were five survivors (those you mentioned plus Ada) during the events of RE2, the game never claimed those were the only survivors in the whole city. RE3 adds three more and the Outbreaks add a few more as well.

Only a handful of citizens managed to escape, while most of the 100.000 habitants didn't make it.

[THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK]

Ahh, the note in RE7 clearly states "Civilian" surviors from the Cannon games , not Starz or BSAA members. This is what i'm referring to.
I really can't blame capcom for wanting to draw a veil over the silly Boulder punching incident or Weskers secret Son. RE has always been Camp but the narrative of 5 & 6 turned it into a joke. It is for similar reasons that the Mystry Case Files have now retconed their own series by completely removing Fates Carnaval and Sacred Grove from their own cannon.
Having said that I do agree that the writing in RE7 is very weak and seems to have been a rushed afterthought and while it is not "Game Breaking" it is inconsistent enough to break the immersion. Something that stands out is that the Police didn't follow up when their own officer failed to check in which is just unbelievable.